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Started by Towelie, Oct 30, 2015, 06:41 PM

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Towelie

I'll make this short. The departure of certain older players who no longer play each day (more than a few too), while a phenomenon I don't understand, has affected at least Survival if not more, in ways of Playerbase and revenue.
While it's not critical at the moment, I'd like to try to persuade some of those players to return!

So, if you are an older player (Elite+) and recently (in the last 1-2 months) left sft / stopped playing so often, please tell us why, and if it's not just boredom, but someting that we did to offend you, please tell us what we can do to make it right.

Thank you!


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Towelie

Oct 30, 2015, 06:43 PM #1 Last Edit: Oct 30, 2015, 06:48 PM by Towelie
PS: For those that are interested, here is the number of new players that joined Survival every day for the past 2 months:
Note that this only counts first time joining players!

1/9/15: 47
2/9/15: 164
3/9/15: 41
4/9/15: 226
5/9/15: 91
6/9/15: 121
7/9/15: 64
8/9/15: 41
9/9/15: 145
10/9/15: 31
11/9/15: 165
12/9/15: 149
13/9/15: 85
14/9/15: 229
15/9/15: 28
16/9/15: 89
17/9/15: 39
18/9/15: 40
19/9/15: 282
20/9/15: 68
21/9/15: 40
22/9/15: 146
23/9/15: 42
24/9/15: 134
25/9/15: 57
26/9/15: 90
27/9/15: 61
28/9/15: 166
29/9/15: 27
30/9/15: 29
1/10/15: 92
2/10/15: 194
3/10/15: 79
4/10/15: 152
5/10/15: 261
6/10/15: 37
7/10/15: 61
8/10/15: 145
9/10/15: 63
10/10/15: 89
11/10/15: 263
12/10/15: 380
13/10/15: 32
14/10/15: 47
15/10/15: 43
16/10/15: 60
17/10/15: 114
18/10/15: 100
19/10/15: 201
20/10/15: 40
21/10/15: 37
22/10/15: 82
23/10/15: 56
24/10/15: 51
25/10/15: 66
26/10/15: 31
27/10/15: 24
28/10/15: 123
29/10/15: 29
30/10/15: 98

And here's a graph of SFT's revenues for the last 3 months (daily granularity). I will not disclose values for security reasons.



Our current monthly expenses to run SFT:  $996.40 / month (at today's exchange rate)


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Happysheep102

Oct 30, 2015, 08:02 PM #2 Last Edit: Oct 30, 2015, 10:55 PM by Happysheep102
As me and many other players have said, it isn't SFT, just that weve grown out of it all. It's not your fault, or anyones, and theres no way to make us come back really. Just boredem takes us away...

As a side note, I've come back and started to play factions again :-)

stormshooter

Oct 30, 2015, 08:26 PM #3 Last Edit: Oct 30, 2015, 11:30 PM by TeraStorm

Loasty

I migrated to pixelmon after pixelmon was started, A lot of things like in game guilds and such arent as popular anymore for survival and its what really brought me into the game play when i had played survival :P
I still come around once and awhile but not very often anymore since everyone i knew had left
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ryan_m004

I don't play survival us much anymore due to me being more committed to pixelmon, so I am on survival still, just not as much.
Quote from: MrEpicWonder on Dec 25, 2014, 09:21 PMi have such a good memory, an apple, an orange and a tennis ball thrown at my dick.

DuaneandBrand0

Recently started to avidly play Survival again. I was gone due to the fact that B-Team made me really busy. Sometimes people just need to take a break.

Dogggeh

I have exams currently so i can't really focus on anything else.

I just play in my spare time, but when exams are over i will be back :)

emily142

Back in college for my third year. Being a Pharmacy major with double minors isn't exactly easy so I've been super busy. I will be more active on breaks and in the summer!

Cireshie

Oct 31, 2015, 12:58 AM #9 Last Edit: Oct 31, 2015, 03:41 AM by Cireshie
I feel like I've done most of what I can do.
Some players and staff get annoying and it's not worth the troubles for getting on.
My earlier habit was unhealthy and I felt I should be apart of real life society and not a society of hiding behind a computer screen.
The negatives outweigh the positive (helping doesn't feel worth it)

I might compile a list of suggestions/problems/bugs that I will share with you (privately by forum message or anything other preferred communication). If you want any other people to be sent this list, please tell me. It all depends if it's worth asking considering most of it would be declined or just ignored.

SuperJK

Towelie I have homework I'm not a Elite+ but i'm member but sometimes i can get on cuz of homework

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SuperJK

Quote from: Towelie on Oct 30, 2015, 06:43 PMPS: For those that are interested, here is the number of new players that joined Survival every day for the past 2 months:
Note that this only counts first time joining players!

1/9/15: 47
2/9/15: 164
3/9/15: 41
4/9/15: 226
5/9/15: 91
6/9/15: 121
7/9/15: 64
8/9/15: 41
9/9/15: 145
10/9/15: 31
11/9/15: 165
12/9/15: 149
13/9/15: 85
14/9/15: 229
15/9/15: 28
16/9/15: 89
17/9/15: 39
18/9/15: 40
19/9/15: 282
20/9/15: 68
21/9/15: 40
22/9/15: 146
23/9/15: 42
24/9/15: 134
25/9/15: 57
26/9/15: 90
27/9/15: 61
28/9/15: 166
29/9/15: 27
30/9/15: 29
1/10/15: 92
2/10/15: 194
3/10/15: 79
4/10/15: 152
5/10/15: 261
6/10/15: 37
7/10/15: 61
8/10/15: 145
9/10/15: 63
10/10/15: 89
11/10/15: 263
12/10/15: 380
13/10/15: 32
14/10/15: 47
15/10/15: 43
16/10/15: 60
17/10/15: 114
18/10/15: 100
19/10/15: 201
20/10/15: 40
21/10/15: 37
22/10/15: 82
23/10/15: 56
24/10/15: 51
25/10/15: 66
26/10/15: 31
27/10/15: 24
28/10/15: 123
29/10/15: 29
30/10/15: 98

And here's a graph of SFT's revenues for the last 3 months (daily granularity). I will not disclose values for security reasons.



Our current monthly expenses to run SFT:  $996.40 / month (at today's exchange rate)
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I try and log onto survival as much as I can when I'm not doing school work or chilling with @DuaneandBrand0 over on B-team ;)
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nicholiplays

well i've been on sft for like a year, i think. i just truly don't like the staffs i'm just being real here. mostly Jmod's only and some others.. Jmod's just kind of piss me off they just act like they're the boss of this server. Here's an example: Me: can you stop kicking me and just talk to me in chat? Jmod: *Kick's NicholasPlays for talking back* Its just really annoying. I know they are beginners but it makes me mad and I just don't want to play anymore. I also only come on like once or twice a week now because I get bored too now I only come on for about 3 minutes then leave, now that I know a lot about SFT it's not fun anymore. It's because I have so much advanced stuff and I no longer use the stuff because I'm basically done with the stuff so I give them away. Anyway's, I'm just being honest here.  :fire:  :fire:  :fire:
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ButterWhisperer

I feel that it is the case that whenever a game server is made for a game other than Minecraft, the dedication and commitment to making the server better, and to keep it running isn't as strong as for the Minecraft servers simply because they are more popular than the other game servers. For example when there were still DayZ servers around, they were popular for a little while, but began to die out because there was nothing on those servers to set it apart from the other DayZ servers. There was nothing to entice players to join and keep playing, because there wasn't any devotion to adding new things to the server or keeping it running. It seemed like that when other game servers were created, they were created with the mindset of just having it as a "fun" server, rather than a server that with the proper dedication could become just as popular and beneficial to the community as the Survival and Pixelmon servers.

This is not just about a DayZ server, nor am I saying that I would like a DayZ server. I am simply using that as an example, but there are many other servers that have been set up that have had this problem such as: Starbound, Crafting Dead, Rust, as well as the many DayZ servers that we have had. (Epoch, Overwatch, Vanilla)

Brightpkz

I agree with what NicholasPlays said, the JMod quality is falling apart on a rapid basis. A professional staff team used to be a selling point of SFT, certainly, I know that the staff team has and is taking measures to restore the staff team to its former glory, but I do understand the limits of it, due to the lack of potential candidates for staff. Although I'm in no position to say so (due to my like 1 minute uptime/week), I feel like that's one of the bigger driveaways in SFT. As a former staff, I get it that we shouldn't criticize the team in public or stuff as such, but it's pure truth. I know you notice the deterioration in staff quality as well.

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Towelie

Quote from: TeraStorm on Oct 30, 2015, 08:26 PMI'm still here babe <3

However sometimes I am inclined to take a break due to things like this....

https://gyazo.com/5a0bf8b69ab84f78730e25bf81741a4a
https://gyazo.com/a2d32869a6d993cf1d4efd06ba2789db
https://gyazo.com/939eb78ddc8b4a277c29e148c0f52b82
In my opinion, the parents are to blame for this for educating their children to be hateful little monsters instead of teaching them about acceptance and tolerance.
We will ban anyone exhibiting any homophobic/discriminatory behavior, because that is not tolerated on Super Fun Time.


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Towelie

Quote from: Cireshie on Oct 31, 2015, 12:58 AMI might compile a list of suggestions/problems/bugs that I will share with you (privately by forum message or anything other preferred communication). If you want any other people to be sent this list, please tell me. It all depends if it's worth asking considering most of it would be declined or just ignored.
Please do.


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Towelie

Quote from: TheEngineer on Oct 31, 2015, 01:51 AMI feel that it is the case that whenever a game server is made for a game other than Minecraft, the dedication and commitment to making the server better, and to keep it running isn't as strong as for the Minecraft servers simply because they are more popular than the other game servers. For example when there were still DayZ servers around, they were popular for a little while, but began to die out because there was nothing on those servers to set it apart from the other DayZ servers. There was nothing to entice players to join and keep playing, because there wasn't any devotion to adding new things to the server or keeping it running. It seemed like that when other game servers were created, they were created with the mindset of just having it as a "fun" server, rather than a server that with the proper dedication could become just as popular and beneficial to the community as the Survival and Pixelmon servers.

This is not just about a DayZ server, nor am I saying that I would like a DayZ server. I am simply using that as an example, but there are many other servers that have been set up that have had this problem such as: Starbound, Crafting Dead, Rust, as well as the many DayZ servers that we have had. (Epoch, Overwatch, Vanilla)
I asked if anyone wanted to take care of those servers. Nobody offered., Generally I lose interest in a server if it doesn't bring anything worthwhile to SFT. The #1 asset I care about is playerbase and not money. A server with 6 players online is not worth the same attention as a server with 100 players online.


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Towelie

Quote from: Brightpkz on Oct 31, 2015, 06:24 AMI agree with what NicholasPlays said, the JMod quality is falling apart on a rapid basis. A professional staff team used to be a selling point of SFT, certainly, I know that the staff team has and is taking measures to restore the staff team to its former glory, but I do understand the limits of it, due to the lack of potential candidates for staff. Although I'm in no position to say so (due to my like 1 minute uptime/week), I feel like that's one of the bigger driveaways in SFT. As a former staff, I get it that we shouldn't criticize the team in public or stuff as such, but it's pure truth. I know you notice the deterioration in staff quality as well.
That doesn't have anything to do with the staff, but more with the playerbase. I explained this several times, won't say it again but if the players that join are well.. not of the same quality as older players, that will also mean that eventually the staff team ewould deteriorate.

I don't want to be pointed out issues I can't fix, I'd rather focus on those I can fix. Yes, we will improve on the staff team but with all due respect, if the players that join have the IQ of a frog, I can't make a genius staff member out of them.


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Towelie

@TheEngineer
To get into detail how that happens:
I start playing a new game. Example DayZ / Unturned / GMod. I then want to play on it and see only 5-6 players joining (GMod was a happy case). Then I work on it a bit but I decide it's not justified for me to spend hours of my time on a server with no future prospects when there are other things that require my attention constantly on SFT.
That is the point where I try to find someone to look after those servers. That doesn't always work / I don't always find someone but If I do, they basically get to run the server with all expenses paid for by me and with administrator powers.

Sadly, in DayZ's case, nobody happened to want to do that. Everyone was too busy blaming me for being lazy, but if they documented for the least bit, they would learn installing mods and stuff on DayZ was no easy job and required scripting and coding knowledge and lots of free time because of DayZ/Arma's "hacky" nature.


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omelott

Quote from: Towelie on Oct 31, 2015, 11:08 AM
Quote from: TeraStorm on Oct 30, 2015, 08:26 PMI'm still here babe <3

However sometimes I am inclined to take a break due to things like this....

https://gyazo.com/5a0bf8b69ab84f78730e25bf81741a4a
https://gyazo.com/a2d32869a6d993cf1d4efd06ba2789db
https://gyazo.com/939eb78ddc8b4a277c29e148c0f52b82
In my opinion, the parents are to blame for this for educating their children to be hateful little monsters instead of teaching them about acceptance and tolerance.
We will ban anyone exhibiting any homophobic/discriminatory behavior, because that is not tolerated on Super Fun Time.
I couldn't agree more.
I've always wanted to take my sister onto survival or factions, but I don't want to expose her to the constant profanity. Something really needs to be done about this!

Kaninka

Don't take younger siblings onto factions, they will get taught all the bad things in the world: distrust, mean people, screaming, flaming, racism, swearing where "f**k" is actually a nice word.
Factions is a PvP competitive server, it is not a family friendly server, it brings the worst out of people, of course people get banned if they are too extreme, but please... I beg you, don't take your younger siblings to that server :)  :zombie:

omelott

Oct 31, 2015, 12:30 PM #23 Last Edit: Oct 31, 2015, 12:39 PM by omelott
Oh, fair point.... I still think factions still deserves a little more attention in the swearing department.

Cabbage

Personally i stopped playing as much just because of friends who i had played with for years on the server began to leave