Mojang will begin blocking EULA breaking servers after MC 1.9.3

[Dpa1991]

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Most of the problem is from servers that are heavily pay2win and target younger kids and have no issues taking money from kids. There are servers who let children donate/buy thousands of dollars worth of stuff, then when the parents find out they instantly blame mojang. So they don't like how servers are representing their brand.

Personally on Pixelmon I limit players to spending $200 a month (exceed the limit and you're blocked from purchasing anything until the month ends) and try to make everything available through gameplay and not need a purchase. But due to the EULA enforcing, we're labeled as a bad server.

[Fractalion]

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Most of the problem is from servers that are heavily pay2win and target younger kids and have no issues taking money from kids. There are servers who let children donate/buy thousands of dollars worth of stuff, then when the parents find out they instantly blame mojang. So they don't like how servers are representing their brand.

Personally on Pixelmon I limit players to spending $200 a month (exceed the limit and you're blocked from purchasing anything until the month ends) and try to make everything available through gameplay and not need a purchase. But due to the EULA enforcing, we're labeled as a bad server.

You're right, I just avoided pay to win servers in an attempt to keep my post a bit shorter. They're a more complicated subject, and back when the EULA changes were first announced 20 months ago, the non-premium servers were a huge part of the explanation Mojang gave regarding the changes, so I decided I'd focus on that.

The excessively greedy pay to win servers are definitely a huge part of the decision to start enforcing the EULA, though. You're definitely right about that.

[Dpa1991]

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Most of the problem is from servers that are heavily pay2win and target younger kids and have no issues taking money from kids. There are servers who let children donate/buy thousands of dollars worth of stuff, then when the parents find out they instantly blame mojang. So they don't like how servers are representing their brand.

Personally on Pixelmon I limit players to spending $200 a month (exceed the limit and you're blocked from purchasing anything until the month ends) and try to make everything available through gameplay and not need a purchase. But due to the EULA enforcing, we're labeled as a bad server.

You're right, I just avoided pay to win servers in an attempt to keep my post a bit shorter. They're a more complicated subject, and back when the EULA changes were first announced 20 months ago, the non-premium servers were a huge part of the explanation Mojang gave regarding the changes, so I decided I'd focus on that.

The excessively greedy pay to win servers are definitely a huge part of the decision to start enforcing the EULA, though. You're definitely right about that.

Yeah, I don't want to bash mojang over their decisions as there is a problem. This just isn't the solution they should put in effect.

IMO, Mojang should regulate what shops sell by prices. They should get in touch with Buycraft and hard-code in restrictions such as how much a player can spend a month (Something reasonable, not overly restricting like $50/mo) and any server who claims to be an official mojang server will instantly get blacklisted.

Its none of mojangs business as to how a server is ran, if its p2w then be it.

[Fractalion]

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It really always comes back down to the shareholders and how copyright law works, though.

I think it would be a good idea for them to work with buycraft in that way, and I'd be surprised if we don't see that in the future, but in the end it wouldn't really do anything to stop the larger threats to their intellectual property. (Such as the non-premium servers that I referred to in my original post)

It sucks, it really does, but we're just going to have to move on and find a new path. I'm sure we'll find a way to subside off of cosmetic perks and purchases related to other game servers.

[Brightpkz]

This community has been my support for a good 3 years. I couldn't imagine it turning into dust... I genuinely hope everything goes well...

[HD]

I was part of the community for one whole year now.. I can't imagine seeing it all go away

[Dpa1991]

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It really always comes back down to the shareholders and how copyright law works, though.

I think it would be a good idea for them to work with buycraft in that way, and I'd be surprised if we don't see that in the future, but in the end it wouldn't really do anything to stop the larger threats to their intellectual property. (Such as the non-premium servers that I referred to in my original post)

It sucks, it really does, but we're just going to have to move on and find a new path. I'm sure we'll find a way to subside off of cosmetic perks and purchases related to other game servers.

Yeah, there will always be abusers. But in this way, Mojang can have approved gateways for MTX to be put into place, there would obviously be more than just Buycraft but this way if you take donations and don't use an approved gateway, then your server gets blacklisted.

[calfrokrill]

I can't imagine SFT ever going down. It's become a part of my life. The players and community have changed who I am. If this server goes, it will be so devastating.
I would never, ever have imagined SFT being on the list. I hope everything goes well. I'm really nervous.

[Barbacue2]

Just a thought, but what if we go 1.9.2 instead of updating?  The blacklists only effect 1.9.3+ and I'd rather not this be SFT's last stand

[Dpa1991]

Just a thought, but what if we go 1.9.2 instead of updating?  The blacklists only effect 1.9.3+ and I'd rather not this be SFT's last stand

I'm sure the update will eventually be backported, and most likely won't even need to be backported as from what I've read they're just faking a connection error whenever a blacklisted DNS trys to authenticate an account or something.

I have no idea though.

[The_Stigg]

This is terrible. Who can honestly blame Mojang though? They did what they had to do. I'm one of those people who if shown how to do something once, I got it. But I've never been able to figure out internet hosting. Can someone explain what SFT will have to do in order to be EULA compliant?

[BattleAxium]

This is terrible. Who can honestly blame Mojang though? They did what they had to do. I'm one of those people who if shown how to do something once, I got it. But I've never been able to figure out internet hosting. Can someone explain what SFT will have to do in order to be EULA compliant?

Read Fract's post above. Has nothing to do with Internet hosting.

Yeah, I don't want to bash mojang over their decisions as there is a problem. This just isn't the solution they should put in effect.

IMO, Mojang should regulate what shops sell by prices. They should get in touch with Buycraft and hard-code in restrictions such as how much a player can spend a month (Something reasonable, not overly restricting like $50/mo) and any server who claims to be an official mojang server will instantly get blacklisted.

Its none of mojangs business as to how a server is ran, if its p2w then be it.

People will just stop using Buycraft for donations. Plain and simple. As much as I don't agree with any game company like Mojang restricting their fan-base from donations/monetization, it really boils down to preventing players from a) Getting unfair advantages and b) Mojang losing revenue. This seems to be a common practice in the game industry. For instance, Bohemia Interactive (BI) has shutdown servers for not being approved for monetization. It's the same deal here. If you don't comply with their EULA, then expect some repercussions. I'm not siding with Mojang here (in fact I think what they're doing is ridiculous), but at the end of the day, it's their game and if they want to enforce a EULA that's their entitlement. Whether it's fair or unfair for the end user doesn't matter, we have to deal with the changes they make, and comply or don't use/play their game.

[SuperJK]

NOO I HOPE SFT IS NOT GONNA DIE

[iLaxrv10]

NOO I HOPE SFT IS NOT GONNA DIE

The best thing to do right now is to stay calm!
SFT isn't gonna die and I don't know what we will do in order to meet the new requirements but keep an eye on this topic because @Towelie will be posting updates!

[SuperJK]

ok BTW SOME of the freaking VERY POPULAR SERVERS ARE ON IT LIKE (Insert Name here) and (Insert Name here)

**Edited to take out the mentioning of other severs.

[SuperJK]

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Most of the problem is from servers that are heavily pay2win and target younger kids and have no issues taking money from kids. There are servers who let children donate/buy thousands of dollars worth of stuff, then when the parents find out they instantly blame mojang. So they don't like how servers are representing their brand.

Personally on Pixelmon I limit players to spending $200 a month (exceed the limit and you're blocked from purchasing anything until the month ends) and try to make everything available through gameplay and not need a purchase. But due to the EULA enforcing, we're labeled as a bad server.

I saw this on Notch's Website once

[SuperJK]

All the other Minecraft servers are trash

[Dpa1991]

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Most of the problem is from servers that are heavily pay2win and target younger kids and have no issues taking money from kids. There are servers who let children donate/buy thousands of dollars worth of stuff, then when the parents find out they instantly blame mojang. So they don't like how servers are representing their brand.

Personally on Pixelmon I limit players to spending $200 a month (exceed the limit and you're blocked from purchasing anything until the month ends) and try to make everything available through gameplay and not need a purchase. But due to the EULA enforcing, we're labeled as a bad server.

I saw this on Notch's Website once

What?

This is terrible. Who can honestly blame Mojang though? They did what they had to do. I'm one of those people who if shown how to do something once, I got it. But I've never been able to figure out internet hosting. Can someone explain what SFT will have to do in order to be EULA compliant?

Read Fract's post above. Has nothing to do with Internet hosting.

Yeah, I don't want to bash mojang over their decisions as there is a problem. This just isn't the solution they should put in effect.

IMO, Mojang should regulate what shops sell by prices. They should get in touch with Buycraft and hard-code in restrictions such as how much a player can spend a month (Something reasonable, not overly restricting like $50/mo) and any server who claims to be an official mojang server will instantly get blacklisted.

Its none of mojangs business as to how a server is ran, if its p2w then be it.

People will just stop using Buycraft for donations. Plain and simple. As much as I don't agree with any game company like Mojang restricting their fan-base from donations/monetization, it really boils down to preventing players from a) Getting unfair advantages and b) Mojang losing revenue. This seems to be a common practice in the game industry. For instance, Bohemia Interactive (BI) has shutdown servers for not being approved for monetization. It's the same deal here. If you don't comply with their EULA, then expect some repercussions. I'm not siding with Mojang here (in fact I think what they're doing is ridiculous), but at the end of the day, it's their game and if they want to enforce a EULA that's their entitlement. Whether it's fair or unfair for the end user doesn't matter, we have to deal with the changes they make, and comply or don't use/play their game.

Yeah, thats why I included the part about blacklisting servers taking money from an un-approved gateway (By gateway I mean Buycraft or enjinn for example) This just isnt going to be good for us in the long run, no matter what way you look at it. Nothing will change until enough players speak up and convince mojang/Microsoft this isn't the right course of action.

[SuperJK]

Dpa1991 It Was on his old website but now he updated it and removed it

[SuperJK]

Oh wait @Towelie  I have an Idea take off all items off the premium shop and put them for EMP and Vote Tokens and Get an Admin+ to give you the perm I Found a minecraft server list of blocked servers where you type in an IP and SFT is not on blacklist BTW check it out here http://blocked-servers.zargor.net/

[Doctor_Thanos]

That is utterly unbelievable. @Towelie we are here for you! Hope everything goes well.

[calfrokrill]

Oh wait @Towelie  I have an Idea take off all items off the premium shop and put them for EMP and Vote Tokens and Get an Admin+ to give you the perm I Found a minecraft server list of blocked servers where you type in an IP and SFT is not on blacklist BTW check it out here http://blocked-servers.zargor.net/

That won't help at all!

[CaykoMarie]

Oh wait @Towelie  I have an Idea take off all items off the premium shop and put them for EMP and Vote Tokens and Get an Admin+ to give you the perm I Found a minecraft server list of blocked servers where you type in an IP and SFT is not on blacklist BTW check it out here http://blocked-servers.zargor.net/

Unfortunately, EMP and Vote Tokens do not pay for real life servers. Also, please be sure to read the entire post.

[ryan_m004]

This news has shocked me, I've been on SFT for more then 2 years now and it's kind of upsetting to see it be in such a situation like this.

[blalp]

It is only an obstacle.