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Regarding MusicBot and Discord Bots

Started by Towelie, Sep 07, 2017, 05:59 AM

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Towelie

Sep 07, 2017, 05:59 AM Last Edit: Sep 07, 2017, 06:15 AM by Towelie
It has recently gotten to my attention that someone has obtained an older copy of MusicBot and is now threatening to sell it / distribute it. I would like to inform everyone that MusicBot is an open source platform, on top of which FrostyRaiden and others contributed to proprietary code.
We are all within our rights to file a DMCA claim if this ever sees the light of day, and we will. I didn't write any code for the bot, but I will help FrostyRaiden file a DMCA claim and so on.

There is also a question whether this was obtained legally or not. There are two possibilities: Either this person hacked our server to obtain it (which in itself carries a 6 month to 5 year jail time in Romania, as you can see here -> https://legeaz.net/noul-cod-penal/art-360). Seing as the server that was hosting the MusicBot files is based in Romania, this means that this matter is the jurisdiction of the Romanian court systems. I am still trying to find out if our server was breached, but more likely, it seems that someone who formerly had access, copied the files and distributed them without our authorization or approval. I am currently investigating this, and know at least one person that formerly had access to our dev server, had access at one point, to our MusicBot files (without my approval or consent. As the person who manages the server, such consent would be needed).

Second of all, I'd like to put an end to these unfounded accusations and pure speculation. It seems people are getting only one side to this whole AmusingThrone - SFT thing. To clarify:
- Both Hoven and SFTBot are based on a publicly available, open source bot : https://github.com/Cog-Creators/Red-DiscordBot
- SFTBot is not using any proprietary code of Hoven. Everything is either part of the opensource bot mentioned above, or coded by bluetigerESW
- What happened between Amusing and SFT - To be honest I don't think it concerns third parties which were not even part of SFT at the time. However, I can say, there's more to it than one side. To give an example, when all this broke down, Amusing asked me for the Hoven sourcecode (which was in my posession at that time, because AmusingThrone created Hoven while part of SFT and using SFT servers and resources). I had given him the sourcecode, in return asked him for the right to use the bot and for the sourcecode of the plugins he made for SFT. I haven't received neither. (Yes, he did offer to let us use Hoven, but not as we initially had agreed upon - letting us host our own instance).

In closing, I would like to mention I will help FrostyRaiden get to the end of this and we will put an end to any attempt to sell stolen code.
I will also continue to investigate how these files were obtained, and if there is any indication of fowl play, I will further report this to the local authorities.


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Towelie

Edit: I talked to @FrostyRaiden  and we will pursue legal action if this stolen code sees the light of day (we will DMCA).
I did not contribute to this but but @FrostyRaiden did and is well within his right. I will help him do the needful.


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Towelie

Have also made the MusicBot creators aware of this attempt to sell their open source code.


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Towelie

If I hadn't made this post and just replied to it instead, my reply would be:



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Mrs_Ender88

Good luck getting to the bottom of this.
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GotAnError

Just an fyi: the server being hosted in Romania does not mean the Romanian court is the only one which can handle this case. The country of the offender also has jurisdiction. Even any third party/other countries which do not even have anything to do with thise case (but have this offense listed as a criminal offense in their countries too), can ask to do the case.

Either way, good luck.
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good luck getting to the end of this.
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Sep 10, 2017, 09:39 PM #7 Last Edit: Sep 10, 2017, 09:43 PM by TheRabster1428
I know a user who was about to purchase it and also who hacked the SFT servers, I told blalp about it though.

EDIT: oops I think I just bumped this topic, sorry xd
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