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Started by Towelie, Jun 13, 2018, 04:26 PM

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Towelie

Jun 13, 2018, 04:26 PM Last Edit: Jun 13, 2018, 04:30 PM by Towelie
I know you are all probably bored by posts I make trying to get donations or "beg for money" as some of you put it.
I'll spare you the annoyance, and instead, say one thing:
- Premium shop purchases (donations) are effectively 0 with 1-3 happening / month (overall not even enough to pay the costs for Buycraft which are close to $15 / mo)
- Patreon has decreased from $250 / mo to $200 / mo https://www.patreon.com/sftmedia
- Month after month, I have to resort to paying at least some of the costs from my own pocket, which in turn has the undesired effect of making me broke.
- The place where we usually advertised for cheap is shutting down / will no longer be available. That means in order to advertise SFT anywhere, I'll need upwards of $150 , as opposed to advertising worth $50 at a time like now

Because we are running out of options, and because the situation is getting desperate, I have one final push in me. One final round before I give up. I better hope that one final push works.
I can't reveal what I am talking about at the moment, but everything will be clear soon after 1.13 is out. Some are going to be infuriated by this, some will love it, I have long accepted I can't please everyone with my decisions and am focusing instead on the percentage of people I please vs infuriate.

If you want to help SFT, and make sure it's still here 1,2 or 3 months from now, you can do the following:
- Support us on Patreon https://www.patreon.com/sftmedia As little as $5 / mo gives us a sense of continuity and if enough people do that (if we manage to get to say $300 / mo), we would be able to have SFT for practically forever
- Purchase something from our premium shops https://www.superfuntime.org/shops (You may think you don't have anything that interests you, but try and browse. Or, why not, be selfless for once in a while and get something for the entire server)
- Purchase something from our merch shop (albeit this only gives us $5 / purchased item, as the majority of the proceedings go to spreadshirt) -> http://superfuntime.spreadshirt.com
- Vote daily. This will help us get more players, hopefully, out of all those players there are a few willing to help SFT financially

From the bottom of my heart, please, help SFT in any way you can. Anything helps.

FYI: If someone asked me a while ago what's more important for me: Me or SFT I would've said SFT. Now I will say cocoa, then me, then SFT. Why me after cocoa and not SFT? Because she needs someone to take care of her, and a gaming community / Minecraft Server can't do that


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George

I am planning on getting a team of 5+ members on SFT. I will force them to vote daily too. Some of them may donate.
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Miricx

gave you the daily goal
dont blow it on hookers and snort now like u usually do fam

love, mirimen

Mrs_Ender88

Quote from: Miricx on Jun 13, 2018, 04:50 PMgave you the daily goal
dont blow it on hookers and snort now like u usually do fam

love, mirimen
But why not, it's seems like the fun thing to do lol
Life is what you make it, so make it great.
Love with all your heart.
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Towelie

Quote from: Miricx on Jun 13, 2018, 04:50 PMgave you the daily goal
dont blow it on hookers and snort now like u usually do fam

love, mirimen
No promises but will try 10/10


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Quote from: Mrs_Ender88 on Jun 13, 2018, 05:15 PM
Quote from: Miricx on Jun 13, 2018, 04:50 PMgave you the daily goal
dont blow it on hookers and snort now like u usually do fam

love, mirimen
But why not, it's seems like the fun thing to do lol
agree

i dont know whats more important

saving your community that's been dear to you and practically been your life for the past 8 years
or flour

MrWobs

Hey All! :diamond:

Today I bring an idea that I honestly think would be great to help SFT!

I was a lot younger when I played SFT but keep checking in from time-to-time. However, recently all I see are the "beg for money" posts. These can be great when used correctly but coming from a business point of view, these kinds of posts are not a positive look for a community.


My suggestions are to re-brand and re-launch.

For god knows how long the website design and logo have been the same. But have a new professional logo and server-icon made. Along with having the website re-made. Which may mean switching to another service like Xenforo or Enjin. Both have their positives and negatives both down to personal opinion.

Now for the servers. I think it's time you had a full reset including player stats and ranks (except donors).

Decide the following...

A Theme - Since the community is called 'SuperFunTime' it would be a fun party theme.
An Audience - Who are going to play on the community.

Then base the re-launch on this!

Meaning the ranks and buildings should be based on the selected theme you are aiming for. Below I've listed a few things you could change.

- Themed hub.
- Themed server spawns.
- Themed set of new ranks.
- Name the ranks on the theme you choose.

Obviously, I'm just throwing ideas out there and I like to lookout for a community I use to enjoy playing on. This wouldn't be a cheap thing to do but sometimes you need to take a step back to take two steps forward. I think just try a re-brand and re-launch everything on a set date and see where it goes from there!

Thanks for reading! :laugh:

Towelie

Quote from: MrWobs on Jun 13, 2018, 05:36 PMFor god knows how long the website design and logo have been the same. But have a new professional logo and server-icon made. Along with having the website re-made. Which may mean switching to another service like Xenforo or Enjin. Both have their positives and negatives both down to personal opinion.

- Web design costs, and it costs a prohibitive amount of money, think $1000-$2000 for a decent website
- Using services such as Enjin has two huge negative side-effects: 1. We are much more liable for DDoS and exploits 2. We can no longer customize our website, we'll just be literally one of thousands.
- A logo goes for about $100 average. A server icon would be another $50. That's $150 for two images, money much better spent paying our bills


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Miricx

Quote from: MrWobs on Jun 13, 2018, 05:36 PMHey All! :diamond:

Today I bring an idea that I honestly think would be great to help SFT!

I was a lot younger when I played SFT but keep checking in from time-to-time. However, recently all I see are the "beg for money" posts. These can be great when used correctly but coming from a business point of view, these kinds of posts are not a positive look for a community.


My suggestions are to re-brand and re-launch.

For god knows how long the website design and logo have been the same. But have a new professional logo and server-icon made. Along with having the website re-made. Which may mean switching to another service like Xenforo or Enjin. Both have their positives and negatives both down to personal opinion.

Now for the servers. I think it's time you had a full reset including player stats and ranks (except donors).

Decide the following...

A Theme - Since the community is called 'SuperFunTime' it would be a fun party theme.
An Audience - Who are going to play on the community.

Then base the re-launch on this!

Meaning the ranks and buildings should be based on the selected theme you are aiming for. Below I've listed a few things you could change.

- Themed hub.
- Themed server spawns.
- Themed set of new ranks.
- Name the ranks on the theme you choose.

Obviously, I'm just throwing ideas out there and I like to lookout for a community I use to enjoy playing on. This wouldn't be a cheap thing to do but sometimes you need to take a step back to take two steps forward. I think just try a re-brand and re-launch everything on a set date and see where it goes from there!

Thanks for reading! :laugh:
I'm not up for switching forum software ever dude, I'll be using SMF til the day i fucking die
also, we did use to have other webdesigns, but as SMF update you eventually have to keep changing it

for example 2011


or 2012

Rose2247

I have an idea, so there are a lot of us with youtube channels or friends that play MC. so why not get a large amt of players and record a video for everyone to post on their yt channels and send to their friends. It's an idea as word of mouth works more than a website advert
To Hyrule Field, I g-Oh wait...Is that a lynel? NO THANKS!

SpeashuLK

I was going to cancel my Tier 4 Patreon, but I'll give it one last push too.

SpeashuLK

Quote from: George_Filos on Jun 13, 2018, 04:42 PMI am planning on getting a team of 5+ members on SFT. I will force them to vote daily too. Some of them may donate.

Please don't force people to do anything, your attitude and behavior have already been a major turn off.

chri88k9

Wow We really are scraping the bottom of the barrel aren't we?
I wish I could donate but I literally can't since I don't have a credit/debit card yet.

Best of luck towelie.

Katherine

Quote from: George_Filos on Jun 13, 2018, 04:42 PMI am planning on getting a team of 5+ members on SFT. I will force them to vote daily too. Some of them may donate.
you can't force them to do anything.

HD

Want money? Get fame

Want fame? Get people's attention

Want attention? Focus on media more often

I ain't gonna bother give it in detail since it's most likely going to be in vain and/or null, but this can be effective in the long run, both this community and the one responsible for the media.


Mazeworker

But... I do vote... every stinkin' day... I just wish more would do it... also its been two years since I joined... someone please vote! Think of the vote rewards you can get!

Towelie

Quote from: Mazeworker on Jun 13, 2018, 11:21 PMBut... I do vote... every stinkin' day... I just wish more would do it... also its been two years since I joined... someone please vote! Think of the vote rewards you can get!
Obviously if you do vote then you are not targeted by this post. I just wish more people would be like you.


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Towelie

Quote from: Halla on Jun 13, 2018, 09:07 PMWant money? Get fame

Want fame? Get people's attention

Want attention? Focus on media more often

I ain't gonna bother give it in detail since it's most likely going to be in vain and/or null, but this can be effective in the long run, both this community and the one responsible for the media.


And I've said over and over: All that stuff takes money. Tons of money. Advertising is an expensive business.
We already maintain a reddit presence (as you can see every week)

If you have clear suggestions, I would love to hear them, heck, I'd even recruit you as the social media person to keep our facebook and twitter updated if you have a solid plan besides just critiquing us.


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Towelie

Quote from: Rose2247 on Jun 13, 2018, 06:39 PMI have an idea, so there are a lot of us with youtube channels or friends that play MC. so why not get a large amt of players and record a video for everyone to post on their yt channels and send to their friends. It's an idea as word of mouth works more than a website advert
I'd love that idea. Would you be interested in organizing it for SFT?


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Miricx

Quote from: Towelie on Jun 14, 2018, 06:50 AM
Quote from: Rose2247 on Jun 13, 2018, 06:39 PMI have an idea, so there are a lot of us with youtube channels or friends that play MC. so why not get a large amt of players and record a video for everyone to post on their yt channels and send to their friends. It's an idea as word of mouth works more than a website advert
I'd love that idea. Would you be interested in organizing it for SFT?
That's the wrong guy to ask

If there are any videos and ideas to film, edit, upload and promote I'm the guy for it. Just tell me when you need me and what you want me to create. I'm dying to sit in front of Sony Vegas and After Effects again.

HD

Quote from: Towelie on Jun 14, 2018, 06:50 AM
Quote from: Halla on Jun 13, 2018, 09:07 PMWant money? Get fame

Want fame? Get people's attention

Want attention? Focus on media more often

I ain't gonna bother give it in detail since it's most likely going to be in vain and/or null, but this can be effective in the long run, both this community and the one responsible for the media.


And I've said over and over: All that stuff takes money. Tons of money. Advertising is an expensive business.
We already maintain a reddit presence (as you can see every week)

If you have clear suggestions, I would love to hear them, heck, I'd even recruit you as the social media person to keep our facebook and twitter updated if you have a solid plan besides just critiquing us.

I understand what you are saying based on that view, but media doesn't take money, it takes time and effort, unless you are trying to make the perfect media using the best editing/recording/etc that cost like $50+ each to upload in those media areas.

I am not asking you to advertise with ads, if I were to ask, I would have said the word itself, but I am asking you to use the media, the places that a lot of people use.

Sorry if I sound like a douche towards you Towelie, I'm just trying to give a suggestion that I find effective.

Towelie

Quote from: Miricx on Jun 14, 2018, 09:08 AM
Quote from: Towelie on Jun 14, 2018, 06:50 AM
Quote from: Rose2247 on Jun 13, 2018, 06:39 PMI have an idea, so there are a lot of us with youtube channels or friends that play MC. so why not get a large amt of players and record a video for everyone to post on their yt channels and send to their friends. It's an idea as word of mouth works more than a website advert
I'd love that idea. Would you be interested in organizing it for SFT?
That's the wrong guy to ask

If there are any videos and ideas to film, edit, upload and promote I'm the guy for it. Just tell me when you need me and what you want me to create. I'm dying to sit in front of Sony Vegas and After Effects again.
At this point, any kind of videos that would give SFT a presence on youtube at all. Nobody is making videos of SFT any more.


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Towelie

Quote from: SpeashuLK on Jun 13, 2018, 07:09 PMI was going to cancel my Tier 4 Patreon, but I'll give it one last push too.
Thank you.


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Towelie

Quote from: Halla on Jun 14, 2018, 11:02 AM
Quote from: Towelie on Jun 14, 2018, 06:50 AM
Quote from: Halla on Jun 13, 2018, 09:07 PMWant money? Get fame

Want fame? Get people's attention

Want attention? Focus on media more often

I ain't gonna bother give it in detail since it's most likely going to be in vain and/or null, but this can be effective in the long run, both this community and the one responsible for the media.


And I've said over and over: All that stuff takes money. Tons of money. Advertising is an expensive business.
We already maintain a reddit presence (as you can see every week)

If you have clear suggestions, I would love to hear them, heck, I'd even recruit you as the social media person to keep our facebook and twitter updated if you have a solid plan besides just critiquing us.

I understand what you are saying based on that view, but media doesn't take money, it takes time and effort, unless you are trying to make the perfect media using the best editing/recording/etc that cost like $50+ each to upload in those media areas.

I am not asking you to advertise with ads, if I were to ask, I would have said the word itself, but I am asking you to use the media, the places that a lot of people use.

Sorry if I sound like a douche towards you Towelie, I'm just trying to give a suggestion that I find effective.

Can you be a bit more detailed? Use the media how? What media?


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Katharina

That what you have described, it is appropriate to make a lot of good response from people around the world.

Towelie

Quote from: MrWobs on Jun 13, 2018, 05:36 PMI was a lot younger when I played SFT but keep checking in from time-to-time.
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Jun 15, 2018, 12:02 PM #26 Last Edit: Jun 15, 2018, 12:06 PM by tman6698
Just something to add, may not be useful:

Whenever a player joins and they talk in any language that isn't English, they leave..
In my opinion, we are loosing a massive player base here as there is still a huge amount of people who don't speak English but play minecraft. Maybe there's something that can be done to cater for these types of players?

There needs to be more content on Facebook, and no ones even bothered with the Insta since 2015, so that's something that needs to be addressed.
I personally think maybe a re-branding may be a good thing if done professionally and correctly (professionally doesn't always mean costly)

I'm sure there's plenty of players who would in some way or another help, as it would be a massive shame to see SFT close after spending 6 years of my life here!

Maybe look at servers that are constantly bringing in 100's of players a day and look at the advertising techniques they're using as they're clearly working!
I personally feel people are moving away from survival due to how quick it could get boring..

More than happy to speak to you personally about this, to get the ball rolling sooner rather than later.

~tman

Towelie

Gonna try to recruit someone to manage our social media pages because I simply don't have enough time for that (not to mention that I think facebook is evil on earth and I haven't used my fb account in years)
Apply here if interested -> https://www.superfuntime.org/forum/index.php/topic,185667.new.html#new


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Rose2247

Quote from: Towelie on Jun 14, 2018, 06:50 AM
Quote from: Rose2247 on Jun 13, 2018, 06:39 PMI have an idea, so there are a lot of us with youtube channels or friends that play MC. so why not get a large amt of players and record a video for everyone to post on their yt channels and send to their friends. It's an idea as word of mouth works more than a website advert
I'd love that idea. Would you be interested in organizing it for SFT?

Sure I could do that if people are willing to send me some clips from the different servers I can put them together and make a video as a bit of an advert for SFT. Also, it would be nice to have a few sound clips for the video, such as people saying a few things about their favorite SFT server. Just hit me up n discord with a pm tow and I'll let you know what all I'd need.
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Rose2247

Quote from: tman6698 on Jun 15, 2018, 12:02 PMWhenever a player joins and they talk in any language that isn't English, they leave..
In my opinion, we are loosing a massive player base here as there is still a huge amount of people who don't speak English but play minecraft. Maybe there's something that can be done to cater for these types of players?

I know quite a bit of Spanish, but as for the other languages I typically have to use google translate.


Another idea I have is taking into consideration the minorities of our community such as the non-native speakers, then there is the LGBT side of SFT. (This month is pride month after all) Ideas are being thrown and I will be talking with the lost staff team and players.
To Hyrule Field, I g-Oh wait...Is that a lynel? NO THANKS!

George

Quote from: SpeashuLK on Jun 13, 2018, 07:15 PM
Quote from: George_Filos on Jun 13, 2018, 04:42 PMI am planning on getting a team of 5+ members on SFT. I will force them to vote daily too. Some of them may donate.

Please don't force people to do anything, your attitude and behavior have already been a major turn off.
Okay then I can leave you alone and never post a poll again on my teams on discord to make a Community town on play.superfuntime.org so they can vote daily and some of them are donators so they may help. You don't want me to do that right?
Hey! Sorry but you don't have permission to view that!

George

Quote from: Katherine on Jun 13, 2018, 09:02 PM
Quote from: George_Filos on Jun 13, 2018, 04:42 PMI am planning on getting a team of 5+ members on SFT. I will force them to vote daily too. Some of them may donate.
you can't force them to do anything.
You are right I can't force them but I can do it and they will follow me. Also I am not angry at all that you told me that but I am angry because of this kid that said that - Please don't force people to do anything, your attitude and behavior have already been a major turn off.
Hey! Sorry but you don't have permission to view that!

George

He was so mean to me in my opinion.
Hey! Sorry but you don't have permission to view that!

Green_Giant

Quote from: George_Filos on Jun 16, 2018, 07:00 AM
Quote from: Katherine on Jun 13, 2018, 09:02 PM
Quote from: George_Filos on Jun 13, 2018, 04:42 PMI am planning on getting a team of 5+ members on SFT. I will force them to vote daily too. Some of them may donate.
you can't force them to do anything.
You are right I can't force them but I can do it and they will follow me. Also I am not angry at all that you told me that but I am angry because of this kid that said that - Please don't force people to do anything, your attitude and behavior have already been a major turn off.
But they're both right. If you force them to do it, not only does it make the server look bad (as people might think it's forcing players to be involved) but also will make playing a chore and they won't want to. Don't force, sure you can ask them to but don't be in their face about it.

George

Quote from: Green_Giant on Jun 16, 2018, 09:36 AM
Quote from: George_Filos on Jun 16, 2018, 07:00 AM
Quote from: Katherine on Jun 13, 2018, 09:02 PM
Quote from: George_Filos on Jun 13, 2018, 04:42 PMI am planning on getting a team of 5+ members on SFT. I will force them to vote daily too. Some of them may donate.
you can't force them to do anything.
You are right I can't force them but I can do it and they will follow me. Also I am not angry at all that you told me that but I am angry because of this kid that said that - Please don't force people to do anything, your attitude and behavior have already been a major turn off.
But they're both right. If you force them to do it, not only does it make the server look bad (as people might think it's forcing players to be involved) but also will make playing a chore and they won't want to. Don't force, sure you can ask them to but don't be in their face about it.
I don't accept anything from you and the guy that I quoted first was mean to me. This is the problem
Hey! Sorry but you don't have permission to view that!

AtomicPulse

Quote from: George_Filos on Jun 16, 2018, 02:40 PM
Quote from: Green_Giant on Jun 16, 2018, 09:36 AM
Quote from: George_Filos on Jun 16, 2018, 07:00 AM
Quote from: Katherine on Jun 13, 2018, 09:02 PM
Quote from: George_Filos on Jun 13, 2018, 04:42 PMI am planning on getting a team of 5+ members on SFT. I will force them to vote daily too. Some of them may donate.
you can't force them to do anything.
You are right I can't force them but I can do it and they will follow me. Also I am not angry at all that you told me that but I am angry because of this kid that said that - Please don't force people to do anything, your attitude and behavior have already been a major turn off.
But they're both right. If you force them to do it, not only does it make the server look bad (as people might think it's forcing players to be involved) but also will make playing a chore and they won't want to. Don't force, sure you can ask them to but don't be in their face about it.
I don't accept anything from you and the guy that I quoted first was mean to me. This is the problem
You ask why they were mean and they state the valid truth so you reply with "I don't accept anything from you"?
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Miricx

Quote from: George_Filos on Jun 16, 2018, 02:40 PM
Quote from: Green_Giant on Jun 16, 2018, 09:36 AM
Quote from: George_Filos on Jun 16, 2018, 07:00 AM
Quote from: Katherine on Jun 13, 2018, 09:02 PM
Quote from: George_Filos on Jun 13, 2018, 04:42 PMI am planning on getting a team of 5+ members on SFT. I will force them to vote daily too. Some of them may donate.
you can't force them to do anything.
You are right I can't force them but I can do it and they will follow me. Also I am not angry at all that you told me that but I am angry because of this kid that said that - Please don't force people to do anything, your attitude and behavior have already been a major turn off.
But they're both right. If you force them to do it, not only does it make the server look bad (as people might think it's forcing players to be involved) but also will make playing a chore and they won't want to. Don't force, sure you can ask them to but don't be in their face about it.
I don't accept anything from you and the guy that I quoted first was mean to me. This is the problem

George

Quote from: AtomicPulse on Jun 17, 2018, 09:01 AM
Quote from: George_Filos on Jun 16, 2018, 02:40 PM
Quote from: Green_Giant on Jun 16, 2018, 09:36 AM
Quote from: George_Filos on Jun 16, 2018, 07:00 AM
Quote from: Katherine on Jun 13, 2018, 09:02 PM
Quote from: George_Filos on Jun 13, 2018, 04:42 PMI am planning on getting a team of 5+ members on SFT. I will force them to vote daily too. Some of them may donate.
you can't force them to do anything.
You are right I can't force them but I can do it and they will follow me. Also I am not angry at all that you told me that but I am angry because of this kid that said that - Please don't force people to do anything, your attitude and behavior have already been a major turn off.
But they're both right. If you force them to do it, not only does it make the server look bad (as people might think it's forcing players to be involved) but also will make playing a chore and they won't want to. Don't force, sure you can ask them to but don't be in their face about it.
I don't accept anything from you and the guy that I quoted first was mean to me. This is the problem
You ask why they were mean and they state the valid truth so you reply with "I don't accept anything from you"?
I mean't I don't accept  any comment by you.
Hey! Sorry but you don't have permission to view that!

George

Quote from: Miricx on Jun 17, 2018, 10:35 AM
Quote from: George_Filos on Jun 16, 2018, 02:40 PM
Quote from: Green_Giant on Jun 16, 2018, 09:36 AM
Quote from: George_Filos on Jun 16, 2018, 07:00 AM
Quote from: Katherine on Jun 13, 2018, 09:02 PM
Quote from: George_Filos on Jun 13, 2018, 04:42 PMI am planning on getting a team of 5+ members on SFT. I will force them to vote daily too. Some of them may donate.
you can't force them to do anything.
You are right I can't force them but I can do it and they will follow me. Also I am not angry at all that you told me that but I am angry because of this kid that said that - Please don't force people to do anything, your attitude and behavior have already been a major turn off.
But they're both right. If you force them to do it, not only does it make the server look bad (as people might think it's forcing players to be involved) but also will make playing a chore and they won't want to. Don't force, sure you can ask them to but don't be in their face about it.
I don't accept anything from you and the guy that I quoted first was mean to me. This is the problem
Wat is dat????
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badbrad01

this topic has gone abit off topic so can we now get back to the topic towelie is trying to put across to all of us
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Towelie

Quote from: badbrad01 on Jun 17, 2018, 05:52 PMthis topic has gone abit off topic so can we now get back to the topic towelie is trying to put across to all of us
That's ok. It's been scientifically proven that the attention span of a present day SFT-er is less than 10 seconds


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Quote from: Towelie on Jun 17, 2018, 06:39 PM
Quote from: badbrad01 on Jun 17, 2018, 05:52 PMthis topic has gone abit off topic so can we now get back to the topic towelie is trying to put across to all of us
That's ok. It's been scientifically proven that the attention span of a present day SFT-er is less than 10 seconds
hows the weather in romania

badbrad01

Quote from: Miricx on Jun 17, 2018, 08:33 PM
Quote from: Towelie on Jun 17, 2018, 06:39 PM
Quote from: badbrad01 on Jun 17, 2018, 05:52 PMthis topic has gone abit off topic so can we now get back to the topic towelie is trying to put across to all of us
That's ok. It's been scientifically proven that the attention span of a present day SFT-er is less than 10 seconds
hows the weather in romania

hows the dating going miricx
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Miricx

Quote from: badbrad01 on Jun 17, 2018, 11:04 PM
Quote from: Miricx on Jun 17, 2018, 08:33 PM
Quote from: Towelie on Jun 17, 2018, 06:39 PM
Quote from: badbrad01 on Jun 17, 2018, 05:52 PMthis topic has gone abit off topic so can we now get back to the topic towelie is trying to put across to all of us
That's ok. It's been scientifically proven that the attention span of a present day SFT-er is less than 10 seconds
hows the weather in romania

hows the dating going miricx
whats that

badbrad01

Quote from: Miricx on Jun 18, 2018, 03:40 AM
Quote from: badbrad01 on Jun 17, 2018, 11:04 PM
Quote from: Miricx on Jun 17, 2018, 08:33 PM
Quote from: Towelie on Jun 17, 2018, 06:39 PM
Quote from: badbrad01 on Jun 17, 2018, 05:52 PMthis topic has gone abit off topic so can we now get back to the topic towelie is trying to put across to all of us
That's ok. It's been scientifically proven that the attention span of a present day SFT-er is less than 10 seconds
hows the weather in romania

hows the dating going miricx
whats that

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