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Started by antidotelul, Jun 29, 2020, 07:22 AM

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antidotelul

Hello, a player by the name of "Krtizkrieg" has been getting a lot of complaints about him using reach. I went onto sft prisons to find any evidence leaning towards him actually cheating and this is what I found.

Here is 2 clips of him hitting me from unnatural lengths such as 6 blocks (WAYYYY over the vanilla minecraft reach length). https://streamable.com/c5ywh6   https://streamable.com/4qky2s

Also, when he was questioned about minecraft client he was using to play prisons, he stated that he was using a client called "Future". When I looked this client up on youtube, there was numerous videos of people reviewing / using a hacked client with the same name "Future". Here is a few of those videos. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfvJyhEsiE4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADlyslSUeck&t=4s  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgJYL6E1_qM  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8mFxOSQmw8 

This is all the evidence I have gathered as of right now but I believe this should 100% be looked into, thanks.

antidotelul

Forgot to input the screenshot of him saying the client he used but here it is :)

https://prnt.sc/t8b2j6

Solgrynn

Jun 29, 2020, 07:52 AM #2 Last Edit: Jun 29, 2020, 07:55 AM by Solgrynn
I said future client as a joke in response to Donny saying wurst

also,

]https://imgur.com/a/YHyHBr1
https://imgur.com/a/mD6EYrN

antidotelul

You do realize most hacked pvp clients are made to hide them from screenshares/ videos right? Theres settings to turn off all hud settings that remotely show anything that would show a cheat.

antidotelul

You also had no explanation for you blatantly using reach in 2 clips. Can you explain that in depth?

Solgrynn

Quote from: antidotelul on Jun 29, 2020, 07:57 AMYou do realize most hacked pvp clients are made to hide them from screenshares/ videos right? Theres settings to turn off all hud settings that remotely show anything that would show a cheat.

No, I didn't realize that, because I've never hacked. And in my video I had no such client at all on my screen. I joined around 30 minutes before you started spawn camping me and left at around 10:55, meaning It would be impossible for me to switch off a client as you claimed I did in chat.

Quote from: antidotelul on Jun 29, 2020, 07:59 AMYou also had no explanation for you blatantly using reach in 2 clips. Can you explain that in depth?

I'm a butterfly clicker and I click relatively fast. Also there's this explanation from a post someone else made

QuoteAnd Minecraft lent itself very well to that kind of tempo PvP. Despite all its imperfections due to the limits of the platform it was built on, these broken pieces fit together perfectly to produce a PvP gamemode that was completely different from other combat games.

Hitbox stretching is essentially nonexistent in all other combat games, but it's present in Minecraft due to platform limitations. Any other game that had hitbox stretching as severe as Minecraft's would be labelled a failure. In addition, knockback on basic attacks is essentially unheard-of in the vast majority of combat games.

But these two combined are what make tempo combat possible. And it's a very different sort of combat from any other game. If you lock someone into a combo, they can't fight back by spam-clicking; they're knocked back and they can't hit you due to hitbox stretching (but you can still hit them). And so they have to find a way to escape or reverse the combo, while you have to find ways to counter such escapes.

And yes, you're spam-clicking the whole time once you lock someone into a combo

From https://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/4wmko6/why_havent_most_servers_switched_to_the_19_combat/d68hatm?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x

antidotelul

Butterfly clicking would not affect your reach in that severity, also. I never accused you of using reach when I was killing you, the only times I accused you of using reach was when you were actually fighting me and using reach. Also, the way combo works according to your quote is not accurate. When you are comboing someone you are within a vanilla block radius while keeping them out of it by wtapping and hitting them away, you hit me once (not a combo) from 6 blocks  away.

Solgrynn

I hit you more than once. In the video you posted you were already reeling from a hit. Also it's very clear that either you were lagging or I was lagging because you can see that I pause in the air for a second before landing the second hit. (Keep in mind my average ping is around 20 and I had a previous claim of 86 while on prison, plus I'm spiking up to 214 in the video I posted).

The maximum hit distance is 6 blocks when in a combo, which aligns perfectly with the video.

Additionally, you asked me to test it, which is the video you posted right now. If I were hacking, why would I comply with your request? That makes no sense at all.

Solgrynn

Comboed noobtube here while clearly showing that I have no hacked client at all:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuVQ1TOyd-k

Using youtube videos I found, hacked clients often have a settings bar in the esc menu (this one for example, can be seen at 5:04 and at other multiple times)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9G3aC_pZjk

The client I'm accused of having seems like it doesn't even have an option to remove the fps and ping counters at the top right (from checking its website).

camster65

Thank you for reporting, this will be discussed by staff and action taking if required.

I'm going to lock the topic while this is being investigated.