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Survival Lite Hardcore Coming Soon?

Started by Towelie, Mar 15, 2021, 09:25 AM

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Towelie

Mar 15, 2021, 09:25 AM Last Edit: Mar 16, 2021, 08:52 AM by Towelie
I am going to start working, this week, on a new server. It's a vanilla Minecraft server, called Survival Lite Hardcore.
Here's how it's going to be different from Survival and other servers:

- This server will be whitelisted, and you will have to apply
- The server will have a single world, but considerably larger than Survival worlds
- This server will be as close to vanilla as possible. Meaning no economy, no fun plugins (Eg: Vehicles, pyrofishing/mining, mcmmo)
- This server will not have an economy
- This server will be in hardcore mode. Meaning if you die... well you die. And you won't be able to play any more for a while (To be determined, 2-12h). Oh and no health regen.
- This server will not have staff, instead survival staff will moderate the chat (seing as we will generally whitelist those who already are a familiar presence on SFT, this should be possible)
- This server will block dupes and glitches, but we will try to leave as much as possible to you (pistons, hoppers) with no limits, however if you create something that is lagging the server extremely, we may remove `
- This server will have TNT, creepers and all such stuff enabled
- Protections will be done by the players, there will be no staff to help with that
- The server will have a small max players to limit the lag (12-20 players at most)
- There will have to be some monetizing to cover hosting, but at a minimum.  It will be EULA compliant as we are, and we are still deciding on that aspect. Playing on the server will be free though, perhaps implement a priority queue system, TBD based on demand.
- This won't be for everyone. It is highly possible that you can work for weeks, build a base, gather all the loot then permanently die and lose everything and nobody's going to help you recover it.

This will be our implementation of Anarchy. We don't intend to punish griefing or looting.
Thoughts?


THIS IS BEING DELAYED DUE TO REAL LIFE STUFF! IT'S MAYBE GOING TO PERHAPS HAPPEN EVENTUALLY THO


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Nubbun

Will pvp be enabled/will you be able to toggle it?

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Towelie

Quote from: Nubbun on Mar 15, 2021, 09:35 AMWill pvp be enabled/will you be able to toggle it?
Honestly, haven't asked myself this question. full time on most likely.


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Will redstone farms and that kinda thing be allowed?
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Minecraftmeme11

Sounds fun... I just feel like I am way too scared to play on it >:)
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MsDanteMoon

Since it's supposed to be like anarchy will you allow hacked clients?
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Trojan

Quote from: Towelie on Mar 15, 2021, 09:25 AMI am going to start working, this week, on a new server. It's a vanilla Minecraft server, called Survival Lite Hardcore.
Here's how it's going to be different from Survival and other servers:

- This server will be whitelisted, and you will have to apply
- The server will have a single world, but considerably larger than Survival worlds
- This server will be as close to vanilla as possible. Meaning no economy, no fun plugins (Eg: Vehicles, pyrofishing/mining, mcmmo)
- This server will not have an economy
- This server will be in hardcore mode. Meaning if you die... well you die. And you won't be able to play any more for a while (To be determined, 2-12h). Oh and no health regen.
- This server will not have staff, instead survival staff will moderate the chat (seing as we will generally whitelist those who already are a familiar presence on SFT, this should be possible)
- This server will block dupes and glitches, but we will try to leave as much as possible to you (pistons, hoppers) with no limits, however if you create something that is lagging the server extremely, we may remove `
- This server will have TNT, creepers and all such stuff enabled
- Protections will be done by the players, there will be no staff to help with that
- The server will have a small max players to limit the lag (12-20 players at most)
- There will have to be some monetizing to cover hosting, but at a minimum.  It will be EULA compliant as we are, and we are still deciding on that aspect. Playing on the server will be free though, perhaps implement a priority queue system, TBD based on demand.
- This won't be for everyone. It is highly possible that you can work for weeks, build a base, gather all the loot then permanently die and lose everything and nobody's going to help you recover it.

This will be our implementation of Anarchy. We don't intend to punish griefing or looting.
Thoughts?

I like the idea, I mentioned a hardcore server on Evan's suggestions post. I like the anarachy idea since you can still protect your buildings. However pvp toggle I think should remain on, and players should be able to go to sw for pvp-anarchy.
Another idea I would had is that you should use something like Population Scarcity, which does a few things. For one it means that you will get a few of each animal nearby so you don't have ridiculous scavenges like you do on regular survival (which you can circumvent in ours with eggs). Secondly, it stops hordes of mobs spawning in one consolidated space so you can't use grinders. Thirdly, it disallows warp set but enable warp posts every 300 blocks away.
Will fly still be enabled? Also, I think players should be able to fill in water and lava areas due to the fact it could be cumbersome otherwise. Are the nether and end independent or shared with surv?

Quote from: Towelie on Mar 15, 2021, 09:44 AM
Quote from: Nubbun on Mar 15, 2021, 09:35 AMWill pvp be enabled/will you be able to toggle it?
Honestly, haven't asked myself this question. full time on most likely.

The sw idea would make it less terrifying for those wanting hardcore but not pvp, but still allow free pvp :D

Quote from: MsDanteMoon on Mar 15, 2021, 05:31 PMSince it's supposed to be like anarchy will you allow hacked clients?

Hmmmmm xD
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Towelie

Quote from: MsDanteMoon on Mar 15, 2021, 05:31 PMSince it's supposed to be like anarchy will you allow hacked clients?
Not really supposed to be like anarchy. And up to a level. If it's destructive to the server, no, we won't allow it


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MsDanteMoon

I'm getting a little bit of mixed signals and want some clarification;

You said in your original post that ' This will be our implementation of Anarchy.' However just now you said that it's not really supposed to be like anarchy, I'm just a little confused on whether or not you intended this server to be like SFT's version of an anarchy server (but with modifications)

Also what kind of hacks would be consider server breaking?

No hate or anything on the new server, just wanted to know  :heart:
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Khema騎士

This sounds very interesting. I think I would like it.

Towelie

Quote from: MsDanteMoon on Mar 16, 2021, 11:16 AMI'm getting a little bit of mixed signals and want some clarification;

You said in your original post that ' This will be our implementation of Anarchy.' However just now you said that it's not really supposed to be like anarchy, I'm just a little confused on whether or not you intended this server to be like SFT's version of an anarchy server (but with modifications)

Also what kind of hacks would be consider server breaking?

No hate or anything on the new server, just wanted to know  :heart:
Not anarchy, it's our take of Anarchy xd meaning elements of anarchy but not all.
As for destructive mods, idk nukers, server laggers, crashers


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Towelie

THIS PROJECT IS ON HOLD UNTIL MY LIFE GETS LESS BUSY. I HAVE A CERTIFICATION TO TAKE AND A LOT OF STUFF ATM SO CANNOT DO THIS RIGHT NOW.


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