[Survival] Help me find that idea to keep people glued to the screens

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Towelie

You know that magic idea that just adds something that keeps people glued to the screen and on the server?
I don't have many examples, stuff like the Murder Mystery plugin, Board Game, but also for some people Slimefun was that.
I just need one idea to give players something enjoyable to do while they are in-game.
So given that I am out of ideas, I thought... let's crowdsource.
I want you all to help look for that "new thing" that will keep players glued to survival, whether it's a new minigame plugin, or anything else really.

Here's what I want from you:
Look for ideas, get some researches. IF you want to look for plugins you can do so here https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/categories/spigot.4/ (please make sure they are updated and work with 1.16 before suggesting, should say that).
But I don't mean only plugins.. the sky is the limit in this one!

What's in it for you? If you come with a golden idea that's implemented into the server, you could stand to earn the super elusive and rare "Hype Beast" rank on Discord!


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Quote from: Towelie on Apr 20, 2021, 12:25 PMYou know that magic idea that just adds something that keeps people glued to the screen and on the server?
Super glue.
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Towelie

Quote from: winston_b on Apr 20, 2021, 12:27 PM
Quote from: Towelie on Apr 20, 2021, 12:25 PMYou know that magic idea that just adds something that keeps people glued to the screen and on the server?
Super glue.
I mean that could work


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FishNChips

What I think that could be really cool is some sort of plugin that has firearms. This would be cool to collect rare "skins" or "variants" of the guns that you could get through drops or SteveCo. It would also be nice to have events allocated to the plug-in. I would research for a plug-in, but I'm busy and a tad lazy :)
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NotChocobo654321

While I doubt this could work due to one of the items, I can see this being very intresting and fun to work on finding. https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/relics.91536/ Offers about 21 new and intrestin special items. While i know that this probs there's https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/karma.76077/ I could see this making it so people are more inclined to help to get more positive then negative. Hopefully these two ideas could help out! (not at all thinking they will make it)

SavageCoopDoge

something like slimefun to where they have to grind for 20 years, but more items and cooler stuff

Or something like quests, like what they have in WynCraft

Palker

These are the following "problems" that I can find with Survival in its current state:

- Slimefun doesn't fit well in Survival, it is a plugin that would be a better fit in Modded Minecraft. The advanced machines and systems that you can make are also way too complicated for the average player, especially for the younger players. I personally don't have a huge problem with them, but I've had to do loads of research outside of SFT in order to understand how everything works(for example on their Github repo).

- I'd like to see more focus towards the endgame of Survival on SFT. It usually just takes a few days(if not less) to make it to the "endgame" of Minecraft depending on how much you play. We can assume that the vast majority of our players are situated in the endgame so adding content/plugins or changing something to make endgame more fun should be a huge priority. The mining and fishing plugins are a great example of this, but I believe we need more things to do like with mining and fishing.

- The endgame activities like the mining and fishing plugins only cover 2 specific "branches" of activities. For example, there is no plugin that would allow farmers to progress further into the endgame of Survival like there is for mining and fishing. I know that there are plenty of farmers on SFT that would love a plugin that would function in a similar way as the fishing/mining plugin does.

- Regarding the economy, I believe that there should be more alternative ways of making money on SFT, the only big way to make money on SFT is having a successful autoshop or by doing mining/fishing. This makes it very repetitive in the end, I'm not saying that it should be easier to make money, just that more methods of doing so would benefit the players as they won't burn out while doing the same thing over and over again to get the money that they can spend on survival projects. Some emporium price adjustments could be made so that doing other activities are also viable, such as woodcutting, farming/herbalism, alchemy, taming/breeding animals, hunting mobs, or similar. Mining and fishing are so OP compared to other activities that it makes doing anything else feel like a waste of time from a "money-making perspective".

- Better rewards in general. Again, from a money-making perspective, voting/events/challenges, etc are not worth doing whatsoever if we only take the money into account. If the rewards were increased, we could assume that more players would be interested in participating. I've personally had that feeling a lot of times, why should I go do spleef to get 10-20k if I can do fishing/mining or similar to get 10x the reward? Voting is a different story, most people including myself only do it to support the server, but I'd assume that some people do it just for the rewards and the rewards aren't that "attractive" when you can do plenty of other activities and get similar(or better) return with less hassle.

- I think adding some sort of "Hunting" or battle mechanic that could serve as an activity would be interesting as well, just like we had the Elite Mobs in the past. I think if implemented correctly, with decent rewards, could be a success. Since there is no real PvP aspect of Survival atm, enchanting loads of gear is pretty much useless unless you just wanna look cool. Adding mobs or bosses of some sort that allows the player to get an attractive reward worth their time in comparison to the other activities like mining/fishing could be something really fun for the players. This would also let players help each other to face the mobs/bosses. Alternatively that it is implemented as a "minigame" of sorts like the mob arena minigame we used to have(unless it's still a thing, I have no idea) but with decent rewards so that it is worth doing.

I'll edit my post if I come up with anything else, but that's all I can think of for now. I hope these pointers help!  :)

badbrad01

freshen sft up abit? when we were loosing players a full server reset happend and that made people stay and play again as it was all fresh but imo you need to invest into making other game servers as sft has lost all of its steam community that was built on gmod tf2 and rust minecraft aint going be popular forever so looking into new games is always good and not games that a potato can run,  high end games like dayz with promoting and everything else it could get popular like the game already is
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Groot_69

Quote from: Palker on Apr 20, 2021, 03:21 PMThese are the following "problems" that I can find with Survival in its current state:

- Slimefun doesn't fit well in Survival, it is a plugin that would be a better fit in Modded Minecraft. The advanced machines and systems that you can make are also way too complicated for the average player, especially for the younger players. I personally don't have a huge problem with them, but I've had to do loads of research outside of SFT in order to understand how everything works(for example on their Github repo).

- I'd like to see more focus towards the endgame of Survival on SFT. It usually just takes a few days(if not less) to make it to the "endgame" of Minecraft depending on how much you play. We can assume that the vast majority of our players are situated in the endgame so adding content/plugins or changing something to make endgame more fun should be a huge priority. The mining and fishing plugins are a great example of this, but I believe we need more things to do like with mining and fishing.

- The endgame activities like the mining and fishing plugins only cover 2 specific "branches" of activities. For example, there is no plugin that would allow farmers to progress further into the endgame of Survival like there is for mining and fishing. I know that there are plenty of farmers on SFT that would love a plugin that would function in a similar way as the fishing/mining plugin does.

- Regarding the economy, I believe that there should be more alternative ways of making money on SFT, the only big way to make money on SFT is having a successful autoshop or by doing mining/fishing. This makes it very repetitive in the end, I'm not saying that it should be easier to make money, just that more methods of doing so would benefit the players as they won't burn out while doing the same thing over and over again to get the money that they can spend on survival projects. Some emporium price adjustments could be made so that doing other activities are also viable, such as woodcutting, farming/herbalism, alchemy, taming/breeding animals, hunting mobs, or similar. Mining and fishing are so OP compared to other activities that it makes doing anything else feel like a waste of time from a "money-making perspective".

- Better rewards in general. Again, from a money-making perspective, voting/events/challenges, etc are not worth doing whatsoever if we only take the money into account. If the rewards were increased, we could assume that more players would be interested in participating. I've personally had that feeling a lot of times, why should I go do spleef to get 10-20k if I can do fishing/mining or similar to get 10x the reward? Voting is a different story, most people including myself only do it to support the server, but I'd assume that some people do it just for the rewards and the rewards aren't that "attractive" when you can do plenty of other activities and get similar(or better) return with less hassle.

- I think adding some sort of "Hunting" or battle mechanic that could serve as an activity would be interesting as well, just like we had the Elite Mobs in the past. I think if implemented correctly, with decent rewards, could be a success. Since there is no real PvP aspect of Survival atm, enchanting loads of gear is pretty much useless unless you just wanna look cool. Adding mobs or bosses of some sort that allows the player to get an attractive reward worth their time in comparison to the other activities like mining/fishing could be something really fun for the players. This would also let players help each other to face the mobs/bosses. Alternatively that it is implemented as a "minigame" of sorts like the mob arena minigame we used to have(unless it's still a thing, I have no idea) but with decent rewards so that it is worth doing.

I'll edit my post if I come up with anything else, but that's all I can think of for now. I hope these pointers help!  :)

I don't see how Sliemfun is an issue at all. If you don't wanna mess with slimefun then don't but I feel like a lot of people actually like it so why not keep it in? It doesn't interfere with anything in survival if you don't wanna use it or play with it.

Palker

Quote from: Groot_69 on Apr 21, 2021, 03:41 AM
Quote from: Palker on Apr 20, 2021, 03:21 PMThese are the following "problems" that I can find with Survival in its current state:

- Slimefun doesn't fit well in Survival, it is a plugin that would be a better fit in Modded Minecraft. The advanced machines and systems that you can make are also way too complicated for the average player, especially for the younger players. I personally don't have a huge problem with them, but I've had to do loads of research outside of SFT in order to understand how everything works(for example on their Github repo).

- I'd like to see more focus towards the endgame of Survival on SFT. It usually just takes a few days(if not less) to make it to the "endgame" of Minecraft depending on how much you play. We can assume that the vast majority of our players are situated in the endgame so adding content/plugins or changing something to make endgame more fun should be a huge priority. The mining and fishing plugins are a great example of this, but I believe we need more things to do like with mining and fishing.

- The endgame activities like the mining and fishing plugins only cover 2 specific "branches" of activities. For example, there is no plugin that would allow farmers to progress further into the endgame of Survival like there is for mining and fishing. I know that there are plenty of farmers on SFT that would love a plugin that would function in a similar way as the fishing/mining plugin does.

- Regarding the economy, I believe that there should be more alternative ways of making money on SFT, the only big way to make money on SFT is having a successful autoshop or by doing mining/fishing. This makes it very repetitive in the end, I'm not saying that it should be easier to make money, just that more methods of doing so would benefit the players as they won't burn out while doing the same thing over and over again to get the money that they can spend on survival projects. Some emporium price adjustments could be made so that doing other activities are also viable, such as woodcutting, farming/herbalism, alchemy, taming/breeding animals, hunting mobs, or similar. Mining and fishing are so OP compared to other activities that it makes doing anything else feel like a waste of time from a "money-making perspective".

- Better rewards in general. Again, from a money-making perspective, voting/events/challenges, etc are not worth doing whatsoever if we only take the money into account. If the rewards were increased, we could assume that more players would be interested in participating. I've personally had that feeling a lot of times, why should I go do spleef to get 10-20k if I can do fishing/mining or similar to get 10x the reward? Voting is a different story, most people including myself only do it to support the server, but I'd assume that some people do it just for the rewards and the rewards aren't that "attractive" when you can do plenty of other activities and get similar(or better) return with less hassle.

- I think adding some sort of "Hunting" or battle mechanic that could serve as an activity would be interesting as well, just like we had the Elite Mobs in the past. I think if implemented correctly, with decent rewards, could be a success. Since there is no real PvP aspect of Survival atm, enchanting loads of gear is pretty much useless unless you just wanna look cool. Adding mobs or bosses of some sort that allows the player to get an attractive reward worth their time in comparison to the other activities like mining/fishing could be something really fun for the players. This would also let players help each other to face the mobs/bosses. Alternatively that it is implemented as a "minigame" of sorts like the mob arena minigame we used to have(unless it's still a thing, I have no idea) but with decent rewards so that it is worth doing.

I'll edit my post if I come up with anything else, but that's all I can think of for now. I hope these pointers help!  :)

I don't see how Sliemfun is an issue at all. If you don't wanna mess with slimefun then don't but I feel like a lot of people actually like it so why not keep it in? It doesn't interfere with anything in survival if you don't wanna use it or play with it.
We've sort of been forced to use it though... Because of the hopper change. All of my farms etc broke because of the change and now I'm forced to do a ton of slimefun and I'm guessing a lot of people are in the same situation.

Groot_69

Quote from: Palker on Apr 21, 2021, 05:02 AM
Quote from: Groot_69 on Apr 21, 2021, 03:41 AM
Quote from: Palker on Apr 20, 2021, 03:21 PMThese are the following "problems" that I can find with Survival in its current state:

- Slimefun doesn't fit well in Survival, it is a plugin that would be a better fit in Modded Minecraft. The advanced machines and systems that you can make are also way too complicated for the average player, especially for the younger players. I personally don't have a huge problem with them, but I've had to do loads of research outside of SFT in order to understand how everything works(for example on their Github repo).

- I'd like to see more focus towards the endgame of Survival on SFT. It usually just takes a few days(if not less) to make it to the "endgame" of Minecraft depending on how much you play. We can assume that the vast majority of our players are situated in the endgame so adding content/plugins or changing something to make endgame more fun should be a huge priority. The mining and fishing plugins are a great example of this, but I believe we need more things to do like with mining and fishing.

- The endgame activities like the mining and fishing plugins only cover 2 specific "branches" of activities. For example, there is no plugin that would allow farmers to progress further into the endgame of Survival like there is for mining and fishing. I know that there are plenty of farmers on SFT that would love a plugin that would function in a similar way as the fishing/mining plugin does.

- Regarding the economy, I believe that there should be more alternative ways of making money on SFT, the only big way to make money on SFT is having a successful autoshop or by doing mining/fishing. This makes it very repetitive in the end, I'm not saying that it should be easier to make money, just that more methods of doing so would benefit the players as they won't burn out while doing the same thing over and over again to get the money that they can spend on survival projects. Some emporium price adjustments could be made so that doing other activities are also viable, such as woodcutting, farming/herbalism, alchemy, taming/breeding animals, hunting mobs, or similar. Mining and fishing are so OP compared to other activities that it makes doing anything else feel like a waste of time from a "money-making perspective".

- Better rewards in general. Again, from a money-making perspective, voting/events/challenges, etc are not worth doing whatsoever if we only take the money into account. If the rewards were increased, we could assume that more players would be interested in participating. I've personally had that feeling a lot of times, why should I go do spleef to get 10-20k if I can do fishing/mining or similar to get 10x the reward? Voting is a different story, most people including myself only do it to support the server, but I'd assume that some people do it just for the rewards and the rewards aren't that "attractive" when you can do plenty of other activities and get similar(or better) return with less hassle.

- I think adding some sort of "Hunting" or battle mechanic that could serve as an activity would be interesting as well, just like we had the Elite Mobs in the past. I think if implemented correctly, with decent rewards, could be a success. Since there is no real PvP aspect of Survival atm, enchanting loads of gear is pretty much useless unless you just wanna look cool. Adding mobs or bosses of some sort that allows the player to get an attractive reward worth their time in comparison to the other activities like mining/fishing could be something really fun for the players. This would also let players help each other to face the mobs/bosses. Alternatively that it is implemented as a "minigame" of sorts like the mob arena minigame we used to have(unless it's still a thing, I have no idea) but with decent rewards so that it is worth doing.

I'll edit my post if I come up with anything else, but that's all I can think of for now. I hope these pointers help!  :)

I don't see how Sliemfun is an issue at all. If you don't wanna mess with slimefun then don't but I feel like a lot of people actually like it so why not keep it in? It doesn't interfere with anything in survival if you don't wanna use it or play with it.
We've sort of been forced to use it though... Because of the hopper change. All of my farms etc broke because of the change and now I'm forced to do a ton of slimefun and I'm guessing a lot of people are in the same situation.

Your not forced to use it. Make your farms smaller or whatever. You can still have 100 hoppers

Palker

Quote from: Groot_69 on Apr 21, 2021, 01:30 PM
Quote from: Palker on Apr 21, 2021, 05:02 AM
Quote from: Groot_69 on Apr 21, 2021, 03:41 AM
Quote from: Palker on Apr 20, 2021, 03:21 PMThese are the following "problems" that I can find with Survival in its current state:

- Slimefun doesn't fit well in Survival, it is a plugin that would be a better fit in Modded Minecraft. The advanced machines and systems that you can make are also way too complicated for the average player, especially for the younger players. I personally don't have a huge problem with them, but I've had to do loads of research outside of SFT in order to understand how everything works(for example on their Github repo).

- I'd like to see more focus towards the endgame of Survival on SFT. It usually just takes a few days(if not less) to make it to the "endgame" of Minecraft depending on how much you play. We can assume that the vast majority of our players are situated in the endgame so adding content/plugins or changing something to make endgame more fun should be a huge priority. The mining and fishing plugins are a great example of this, but I believe we need more things to do like with mining and fishing.

- The endgame activities like the mining and fishing plugins only cover 2 specific "branches" of activities. For example, there is no plugin that would allow farmers to progress further into the endgame of Survival like there is for mining and fishing. I know that there are plenty of farmers on SFT that would love a plugin that would function in a similar way as the fishing/mining plugin does.

- Regarding the economy, I believe that there should be more alternative ways of making money on SFT, the only big way to make money on SFT is having a successful autoshop or by doing mining/fishing. This makes it very repetitive in the end, I'm not saying that it should be easier to make money, just that more methods of doing so would benefit the players as they won't burn out while doing the same thing over and over again to get the money that they can spend on survival projects. Some emporium price adjustments could be made so that doing other activities are also viable, such as woodcutting, farming/herbalism, alchemy, taming/breeding animals, hunting mobs, or similar. Mining and fishing are so OP compared to other activities that it makes doing anything else feel like a waste of time from a "money-making perspective".

- Better rewards in general. Again, from a money-making perspective, voting/events/challenges, etc are not worth doing whatsoever if we only take the money into account. If the rewards were increased, we could assume that more players would be interested in participating. I've personally had that feeling a lot of times, why should I go do spleef to get 10-20k if I can do fishing/mining or similar to get 10x the reward? Voting is a different story, most people including myself only do it to support the server, but I'd assume that some people do it just for the rewards and the rewards aren't that "attractive" when you can do plenty of other activities and get similar(or better) return with less hassle.

- I think adding some sort of "Hunting" or battle mechanic that could serve as an activity would be interesting as well, just like we had the Elite Mobs in the past. I think if implemented correctly, with decent rewards, could be a success. Since there is no real PvP aspect of Survival atm, enchanting loads of gear is pretty much useless unless you just wanna look cool. Adding mobs or bosses of some sort that allows the player to get an attractive reward worth their time in comparison to the other activities like mining/fishing could be something really fun for the players. This would also let players help each other to face the mobs/bosses. Alternatively that it is implemented as a "minigame" of sorts like the mob arena minigame we used to have(unless it's still a thing, I have no idea) but with decent rewards so that it is worth doing.

I'll edit my post if I come up with anything else, but that's all I can think of for now. I hope these pointers help!  :)

I don't see how Sliemfun is an issue at all. If you don't wanna mess with slimefun then don't but I feel like a lot of people actually like it so why not keep it in? It doesn't interfere with anything in survival if you don't wanna use it or play with it.
We've sort of been forced to use it though... Because of the hopper change. All of my farms etc broke because of the change and now I'm forced to do a ton of slimefun and I'm guessing a lot of people are in the same situation.

Your not forced to use it. Make your farms smaller or whatever. You can still have 100 hoppers
Nobody is forced to do anything since it's optional to play on the server, but since the hopper limit was decreased by 50%, they are effectively forcing us to use slimefun if we want to keep our usual contraptions going like they used to.

Towelie

Quote from: Ranger_113 on Apr 20, 2021, 12:31 PMWhat I think that could be really cool is some sort of plugin that has firearms. This would be cool to collect rare "skins" or "variants" of the guns that you could get through drops or SteveCo. It would also be nice to have events allocated to the plug-in. I would research for a plug-in, but I'm busy and a tad lazy :)
I feel like that would just cause a lot of people, mainly those complaining about too many plugins already -to leave


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Towelie

Quote from: Palker on Apr 21, 2021, 01:39 PM
Quote from: Groot_69 on Apr 21, 2021, 01:30 PM
Quote from: Palker on Apr 21, 2021, 05:02 AM
Quote from: Groot_69 on Apr 21, 2021, 03:41 AM
Quote from: Palker on Apr 20, 2021, 03:21 PMThese are the following "problems" that I can find with Survival in its current state:

- Slimefun doesn't fit well in Survival, it is a plugin that would be a better fit in Modded Minecraft. The advanced machines and systems that you can make are also way too complicated for the average player, especially for the younger players. I personally don't have a huge problem with them, but I've had to do loads of research outside of SFT in order to understand how everything works(for example on their Github repo).

- I'd like to see more focus towards the endgame of Survival on SFT. It usually just takes a few days(if not less) to make it to the "endgame" of Minecraft depending on how much you play. We can assume that the vast majority of our players are situated in the endgame so adding content/plugins or changing something to make endgame more fun should be a huge priority. The mining and fishing plugins are a great example of this, but I believe we need more things to do like with mining and fishing.

- The endgame activities like the mining and fishing plugins only cover 2 specific "branches" of activities. For example, there is no plugin that would allow farmers to progress further into the endgame of Survival like there is for mining and fishing. I know that there are plenty of farmers on SFT that would love a plugin that would function in a similar way as the fishing/mining plugin does.

- Regarding the economy, I believe that there should be more alternative ways of making money on SFT, the only big way to make money on SFT is having a successful autoshop or by doing mining/fishing. This makes it very repetitive in the end, I'm not saying that it should be easier to make money, just that more methods of doing so would benefit the players as they won't burn out while doing the same thing over and over again to get the money that they can spend on survival projects. Some emporium price adjustments could be made so that doing other activities are also viable, such as woodcutting, farming/herbalism, alchemy, taming/breeding animals, hunting mobs, or similar. Mining and fishing are so OP compared to other activities that it makes doing anything else feel like a waste of time from a "money-making perspective".

- Better rewards in general. Again, from a money-making perspective, voting/events/challenges, etc are not worth doing whatsoever if we only take the money into account. If the rewards were increased, we could assume that more players would be interested in participating. I've personally had that feeling a lot of times, why should I go do spleef to get 10-20k if I can do fishing/mining or similar to get 10x the reward? Voting is a different story, most people including myself only do it to support the server, but I'd assume that some people do it just for the rewards and the rewards aren't that "attractive" when you can do plenty of other activities and get similar(or better) return with less hassle.

- I think adding some sort of "Hunting" or battle mechanic that could serve as an activity would be interesting as well, just like we had the Elite Mobs in the past. I think if implemented correctly, with decent rewards, could be a success. Since there is no real PvP aspect of Survival atm, enchanting loads of gear is pretty much useless unless you just wanna look cool. Adding mobs or bosses of some sort that allows the player to get an attractive reward worth their time in comparison to the other activities like mining/fishing could be something really fun for the players. This would also let players help each other to face the mobs/bosses. Alternatively that it is implemented as a "minigame" of sorts like the mob arena minigame we used to have(unless it's still a thing, I have no idea) but with decent rewards so that it is worth doing.

I'll edit my post if I come up with anything else, but that's all I can think of for now. I hope these pointers help!  :)

I don't see how Sliemfun is an issue at all. If you don't wanna mess with slimefun then don't but I feel like a lot of people actually like it so why not keep it in? It doesn't interfere with anything in survival if you don't wanna use it or play with it.
We've sort of been forced to use it though... Because of the hopper change. All of my farms etc broke because of the change and now I'm forced to do a ton of slimefun and I'm guessing a lot of people are in the same situation.

Your not forced to use it. Make your farms smaller or whatever. You can still have 100 hoppers
Nobody is forced to do anything since it's optional to play on the server, but since the hopper limit was decreased by 50%, they are effectively forcing us to use slimefun if we want to keep our usual contraptions going like they used to.
Palker, that has long been changed now, please move on from it, we explained why we had to do that and honestly It's annoying to have to repeat myself


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Quote from: Towelie on Apr 21, 2021, 06:07 PM
Quote from: Palker on Apr 21, 2021, 01:39 PM
Quote from: Groot_69 on Apr 21, 2021, 01:30 PM
Quote from: Palker on Apr 21, 2021, 05:02 AM
Quote from: Groot_69 on Apr 21, 2021, 03:41 AM
Quote from: Palker on Apr 20, 2021, 03:21 PMThese are the following "problems" that I can find with Survival in its current state:

- Slimefun doesn't fit well in Survival, it is a plugin that would be a better fit in Modded Minecraft. The advanced machines and systems that you can make are also way too complicated for the average player, especially for the younger players. I personally don't have a huge problem with them, but I've had to do loads of research outside of SFT in order to understand how everything works(for example on their Github repo).

- I'd like to see more focus towards the endgame of Survival on SFT. It usually just takes a few days(if not less) to make it to the "endgame" of Minecraft depending on how much you play. We can assume that the vast majority of our players are situated in the endgame so adding content/plugins or changing something to make endgame more fun should be a huge priority. The mining and fishing plugins are a great example of this, but I believe we need more things to do like with mining and fishing.

- The endgame activities like the mining and fishing plugins only cover 2 specific "branches" of activities. For example, there is no plugin that would allow farmers to progress further into the endgame of Survival like there is for mining and fishing. I know that there are plenty of farmers on SFT that would love a plugin that would function in a similar way as the fishing/mining plugin does.

- Regarding the economy, I believe that there should be more alternative ways of making money on SFT, the only big way to make money on SFT is having a successful autoshop or by doing mining/fishing. This makes it very repetitive in the end, I'm not saying that it should be easier to make money, just that more methods of doing so would benefit the players as they won't burn out while doing the same thing over and over again to get the money that they can spend on survival projects. Some emporium price adjustments could be made so that doing other activities are also viable, such as woodcutting, farming/herbalism, alchemy, taming/breeding animals, hunting mobs, or similar. Mining and fishing are so OP compared to other activities that it makes doing anything else feel like a waste of time from a "money-making perspective".

- Better rewards in general. Again, from a money-making perspective, voting/events/challenges, etc are not worth doing whatsoever if we only take the money into account. If the rewards were increased, we could assume that more players would be interested in participating. I've personally had that feeling a lot of times, why should I go do spleef to get 10-20k if I can do fishing/mining or similar to get 10x the reward? Voting is a different story, most people including myself only do it to support the server, but I'd assume that some people do it just for the rewards and the rewards aren't that "attractive" when you can do plenty of other activities and get similar(or better) return with less hassle.

- I think adding some sort of "Hunting" or battle mechanic that could serve as an activity would be interesting as well, just like we had the Elite Mobs in the past. I think if implemented correctly, with decent rewards, could be a success. Since there is no real PvP aspect of Survival atm, enchanting loads of gear is pretty much useless unless you just wanna look cool. Adding mobs or bosses of some sort that allows the player to get an attractive reward worth their time in comparison to the other activities like mining/fishing could be something really fun for the players. This would also let players help each other to face the mobs/bosses. Alternatively that it is implemented as a "minigame" of sorts like the mob arena minigame we used to have(unless it's still a thing, I have no idea) but with decent rewards so that it is worth doing.

I'll edit my post if I come up with anything else, but that's all I can think of for now. I hope these pointers help!  :)

I don't see how Sliemfun is an issue at all. If you don't wanna mess with slimefun then don't but I feel like a lot of people actually like it so why not keep it in? It doesn't interfere with anything in survival if you don't wanna use it or play with it.
We've sort of been forced to use it though... Because of the hopper change. All of my farms etc broke because of the change and now I'm forced to do a ton of slimefun and I'm guessing a lot of people are in the same situation.

Your not forced to use it. Make your farms smaller or whatever. You can still have 100 hoppers
Nobody is forced to do anything since it's optional to play on the server, but since the hopper limit was decreased by 50%, they are effectively forcing us to use slimefun if we want to keep our usual contraptions going like they used to.
Palker, that has long been changed now, please move on from it, we explained why we had to do that and honestly It's annoying to have to repeat myself

I've let it go ages ago, I'm not even the one who brought it up. Groot commented on my suggestions and I just stated one of the reasons why I brought up the slimefun part.

Wholesome_seal12

Quote from: SavageCoopDoge on Apr 20, 2021, 02:50 PMsomething like slimefun to where they have to grind for 20 years, but more items and cooler stuff

Or something like quests, like what they have in WynCraft
yes

Nicadean33

Quote from: SavageCoopDoge on Apr 20, 2021, 02:50 PMsomething like slimefun to where they have to grind for 20 years, but more items and cooler stuff

Or something like quests, like what they have in WynCraft

I may be mistaken, but didn't we have something similar to quests at one point? A wildwest server, or was it a part of B-team/Pixelmon?

AtomicPulse

Quote from: Nicadean33 on Apr 21, 2021, 07:56 PM
Quote from: SavageCoopDoge on Apr 20, 2021, 02:50 PMsomething like slimefun to where they have to grind for 20 years, but more items and cooler stuff

Or something like quests, like what they have in WynCraft

I may be mistaken, but didn't we have something similar to quests at one point? A wildwest server, or was it a part of B-team/Pixelmon?
Yeah wildwest and Qwest were too quest based servers i think. Afaik they didn't do too well tho
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