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Bukkit is shutting down (Or not!?)

Started by Towelie, Aug 21, 2014, 08:00 AM

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Towelie

Aug 21, 2014, 08:00 AM Last Edit: Aug 21, 2014, 09:41 AM by Towelie
Whelp... bad news.
Bukkit is shutting down. Read why in this post -> http://forums.bukkit.org/threads/bukkit-its-time-to-say-goodbye.305106/

I am literally at a loss of words.
I don't know what will happen to Minecraft's future or whether someone will continue but if not, we will be stuck on 1.7.9 forever.

Will post more as I find out


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brotherband

Well, what happens now, Are we just going to be stuck at 1.9.10 forever or what?

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SFT_Beast

Aug 21, 2014, 08:15 AM #3 Last Edit: Aug 21, 2014, 08:19 AM by SFT_Beast
Oh god... Honestly this scares me for the future of SFT. If only Mojang didn't enforce the EULA then we wouldn't be stuck in this position.  :'(

Stariieyed

Only thing we can do is wait and see...


camster65


mewbow


happypinecones

Oh, well this isn't exactly good news


HiScore2

Mojang is about to get a taste of their own medicine...

Dpa1991

This isn't as bad as it could be, but it could easily get worse.
Quote from: HiScore2 on Aug 21, 2014, 08:29 AM
Mojang is about to get a taste of their own medicine...

This IS what mojang wanted, Bukkit is the core of any functional MC server -- without it, realms is now the best option. Hopefully players realize the content Mojang adds to these 'updates' are nothing compared to what modders/plugin developers add. Actually, most of the "content" Mojang pushes to their client IS from mods.

Happysheep102

Can't the SFT developers make a simple version or would this again violate the EULA. Because if they can't, it's the end of minecraft.

Quote from: MewieKitteh100 on Aug 21, 2014, 08:24 AM
well shit

ddude_stnom

Would this be the same for Spigot as well?

Towelie

Quote from: ddude_stnom on Aug 21, 2014, 08:43 AM
Would this be the same for Spigot as well?
Spigot uses bukkit sources to update so.. yeah.


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Towelie

We'll figure something out, we always do.


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Pritis

So, to me it looks like at least for now, SFT, along with pretty much every server out there has 2 options... Stay on version 1.7.9 or go vanilla. Honestly, if it were to stay on 1.7.9 I doubt anyone would play anymore because they'd be enjoying the newer features. While if it went vanilla then there'd be issues with griefing and stealing left and right and the only way to know is if someone says it happened to them in chat...

So... What? I guess we just stay on 1.7.9 and wait for Mojang to respond or something?
Also, do servers even really have the option to stay on any version of Bukkit?

Whatever happens, I'm confident SFT will make it.
I'ma go vote~
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Brightpkz

T'is GG. Mojang just gone even harsher.

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Towelie

Good news (credit goes to dpa for the find)

https://twitter.com/md__5/status/502377670210891776

^ Spigot dev/maker.


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ryan_m004

Oh man i dont like this its sounds shit as mewie said:
Quote from: MewieKitteh100 on Aug 21, 2014, 08:24 AM
well shit
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Brightpkz

You never know, sometimes, change may be better! We just gotta face what's been put ahead of us with a bright mind and a big smile. Whatever obstacles there are, overcome it! Show Mojang the power of the people. Show them they cannot take everything away for money! Show them our mindset!

Call me Bond. Bright Bond.
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ChoctheMilkman

Does that mean he aren't completely screwed?


TehLlamaMan

Everyone, look at this tweet from dinnerbone:

https://twitter.com/Dinnerbone/status/502381093731831808

(If you can't be bothered to click the link, here)

I started Bukkit, I'm going to personally see it through for 1.8. Updating it now :)
-Dinnerbone

Don't worry guys, Bukkit will still be going!! :D


Towelie

Summary: Bukkit is no longer shutting down and it turns out Mojang has been secretly owning bukkit for two years now. They will continue to update it. Not sure how to feel about this. On one side it's good that we still have bukkit, on the other side mojang can now practically ban any server they wish from Bukkit or even worse.


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stormshooter

Quote from: Towelie on Aug 21, 2014, 09:27 AM
Summary: Bukkit is no longer shutting down and it turns out Mojang has been secretly owning bukkit for two years now. They will continue to update it. Not sure how to feel about this. On one side it's good that we still have bukkit, on the other side mojang can now practically ban any server they wish from Bukkit or even worse.
Oh well, its better then being stuck in 1.7.10 or going vanilla!

Loasty

Quote from: Towelie on Aug 21, 2014, 09:27 AM
Summary: Bukkit is no longer shutting down and it turns out Mojang has been secretly owning bukkit for two years now. They will continue to update it. Not sure how to feel about this. On one side it's good that we still have bukkit, on the other side mojang can now practically ban any server they wish from Bukkit or even worse.
This sucks alot because now they are basically putting EVERYTHING about minecraft, servers, plugins, mods, whatever they can  into their own hands;  And if they don't like something then they can shut it down just like that :(   Thats the way i see it and its really pathetic in my opinion....
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Pritis

Quote from: tady1 on Aug 21, 2014, 09:38 AM
Quote from: Towelie on Aug 21, 2014, 09:27 AM
Summary: Bukkit is no longer shutting down and it turns out Mojang has been secretly owning bukkit for two years now. They will continue to update it. Not sure how to feel about this. On one side it's good that we still have bukkit, on the other side mojang can now practically ban any server they wish from Bukkit or even worse.
This sucks alot because now they are basically putting EVERYTHING about minecraft, servers, plugins, mods, whatever they can  into their own hands;  And if they don't like something then they can shut it down just like that :(   Thats the way i see it and its really pathetic in my opinion....
It wasn't a secret. I recall them announcing it around the time they bought Bukkit, but I also recall them not really making a big deal of it because it didn't really change anything at the time. Also, in the past ~2 years, have you heard of any occasions of them shutting down servers/plugins/mods/etc? If not, then I don't think they'll really do something like that.
"My country lay within a vast desert. When the sun rose into the sky, a burning wind punished my lands, searing the world. And when the moon climbed into the dark of night, a frigid gale pierced our homes. No matter when it came, the wind carried the same thing... Death. But the winds that blew across the green fields of Hyrule brought something other than suffering and ruin. I coveted that wind, I suppose." - Ganondorf

Loasty

Quote from: shadowjb123 on Aug 21, 2014, 09:49 AM
Quote from: tady1 on Aug 21, 2014, 09:38 AM
Quote from: Towelie on Aug 21, 2014, 09:27 AM
Summary: Bukkit is no longer shutting down and it turns out Mojang has been secretly owning bukkit for two years now. They will continue to update it. Not sure how to feel about this. On one side it's good that we still have bukkit, on the other side mojang can now practically ban any server they wish from Bukkit or even worse.
This sucks alot because now they are basically putting EVERYTHING about minecraft, servers, plugins, mods, whatever they can  into their own hands;  And if they don't like something then they can shut it down just like that :(   Thats the way i see it and its really pathetic in my opinion....
It wasn't a secret. I recall them announcing it around the time they bought Bukkit, but I also recall them not really making a big deal of it because it didn't really change anything at the time. Also, in the past ~2 years, have you heard of any occasions of them shutting down servers/plugins/mods/etc? If not, then I don't think they'll really do something like that.
https://twitter.com/md__5/status/502384545853751296
Thats what im basically trying to get across, What they are doing is causing alot of problems between communities, developers, and just players overall   There is so many comments on this and it seems like its just going to get worse, Thats just my personal opinion of it but we all just have to wait and see for the final outcome
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ChoctheMilkman

Quote from: stormshooter on Aug 21, 2014, 09:36 AM
Quote from: Towelie on Aug 21, 2014, 09:27 AM
Summary: Bukkit is no longer shutting down and it turns out Mojang has been secretly owning bukkit for two years now. They will continue to update it. Not sure how to feel about this. On one side it's good that we still have bukkit, on the other side mojang can now practically ban any server they wish from Bukkit or even worse.
Oh well, its better then being stuck in 1.7.10 or going vanilla!

disagree

GRIMI_

tbh, I'd rather it dead than in the hands of mojang.

Jyncs

It may or may not be dead, it may or may not be being updated by Mojang.

I remember 3.5 years ago. I remember when this very server had hMod. I remember when it suddenly went away and we were wondering what we were going to do next. Then Bukkit came out shortly afterwards and all things were good.

Whatever the outcome, we will continue. We are SuperFunTimers, lets act like it and not panic at the first thought of something changing. Change is what we do all the time and we do it gracefully.

We will persevere

Cesspitsid

seems to be crossed off, all the words and... "edit by mojang - to be continued"

Jyncs

Because Mojang owns Bukkit. They acquired it when they hired the development team.

Appears Diinerbone is going to be updating it 1.8

What they really want is for you to start using their built in Mod API and not use bukkit anymore, but they probably realize that if Bukkit isn't updated they would lose a lot of servers and players and interest in the game because no one would update until they had something great for the new Mod API

I see this as a slow transition from Bukkit to the Mod API that they are putting in. It won't happen overnight which again is why dinnerbone and Mojang areupdating it.

emm10

I had so many mixed emotions while reading this post. There were so many changes that my mind exploded, so I'm just going to rest for a bit now.

GotAnError

Jesus Christ. I see people say "we have to overcome this obstacle" and "that this is hard to pull through". This is a video game, you're not losing your job or watching your pet die. Mojang may make the wrong choices, but they still own the game. Plus, everyone is mad because they enforced the EULA, but that is common sense for them to do that. They have their rules too. I get why people here are annoyed by this all and are trying to find a solution, but this is not a huge setback in life...
Screw the modern world! Our lovely earth is flat, ask the Medieval men!

Jyncs

Quote from: GotAnError on Aug 21, 2014, 02:34 PM
Jesus Christ. I see people say "we have to overcome this obstacle" and "that this is hard to pull through". This is a video game, you're not losing your job or watching your pet die. Mojang may make the wrong choices, but they still own the game. Plus, everyone is mad because they enforced the EULA, but that is common sense for them to do that. They have their rules too. I get why people here are annoyed by this all and are trying to find a solution, but this is not a huge setback in life...

I guess some of us just care about our community than others. It's fine if you don't, but do not criticize us for saying we will get through this. No one has said a word about this being a setback in life, we are talking about it being a setback in our gameplay.

GotAnError

Quote from: Jyncs on Aug 21, 2014, 04:57 PM
Quote from: GotAnError on Aug 21, 2014, 02:34 PM
Jesus Christ. I see people say "we have to overcome this obstacle" and "that this is hard to pull through". This is a video game, you're not losing your job or watching your pet die. Mojang may make the wrong choices, but they still own the game. Plus, everyone is mad because they enforced the EULA, but that is common sense for them to do that. They have their rules too. I get why people here are annoyed by this all and are trying to find a solution, but this is not a huge setback in life...

I guess some of us just care about our community than others. It's fine if you don't, but do not criticize us for saying we will get through this. No one has said a word about this being a setback in life, we are talking about it being a setback in our gameplay.

A community does not automatically stop when a game does. Then the community isn't really strong to begin with. I am sure nothing will end. The EULA was enforced and SFT survived so it'll survive other things too. Also, I wasn't criticising anyone; I was expressing an opinion, which is most definitely allowed.

Plus, I do care about the community. If I didn't, I wouldn't be on the forums responding to this topic.
Screw the modern world! Our lovely earth is flat, ask the Medieval men!

tylerinator

Quote from: Towelie on Aug 21, 2014, 09:27 AM
Summary: Bukkit is no longer shutting down and it turns out Mojang has been secretly owning bukkit for two years now. They will continue to update it. Not sure how to feel about this. On one side it's good that we still have bukkit, on the other side mojang can now practically ban any server they wish from Bukkit or even worse.
SAYWUT?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! MOJANG HAS OWNED BUKKIT!

kwstoudt

Quote from: Towelie on Aug 21, 2014, 08:46 AM
Spigot uses bukkit sources to update so.. yeah.

Actually, Spigot updates much faster than Bukkit so I think they do their own thing...

Jyncs

Quote from: GotAnError on Aug 21, 2014, 06:40 PM
Quote from: Jyncs on Aug 21, 2014, 04:57 PM
Quote from: GotAnError on Aug 21, 2014, 02:34 PM
Jesus Christ. I see people say "we have to overcome this obstacle" and "that this is hard to pull through". This is a video game, you're not losing your job or watching your pet die. Mojang may make the wrong choices, but they still own the game. Plus, everyone is mad because they enforced the EULA, but that is common sense for them to do that. They have their rules too. I get why people here are annoyed by this all and are trying to find a solution, but this is not a huge setback in life...

I guess some of us just care about our community than others. It's fine if you don't, but do not criticize us for saying we will get through this. No one has said a word about this being a setback in life, we are talking about it being a setback in our gameplay.

A community does not automatically stop when a game does. Then the community isn't really strong to begin with. I am sure nothing will end. The EULA was enforced and SFT survived so it'll survive other things too. Also, I wasn't criticising anyone; I was expressing an opinion, which is most definitely allowed.

Plus, I do care about the community. If I didn't, I wouldn't be on the forums responding to this topic.

If that is not criticizing then tell me what it is. When I personally say things like this it is because I am trying to be subtle and reassure everyone that things will be fine regardless if it is a video game or some situation in real life. It's a skill that great leaders learn rather than coming out and being blunt and "express their opinion" about the situation which can only cause more panic with people.


Godswarpawn

At this rate, you kinda wish that Mojang stayed as a indie game developer.