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Somehow I got stuck doing the map work.  Fun.

@YugureHono I'm really not sure, even though Hillary Clinton is winning right now, I still think Bernie has a chance at winning. I really hope he does. 

You plan on attending any Anti-Trump rallies if possible?


Though I technically am Socially Liberal, I tend to reject that label as my personal end goal would be, well, complete removal of the hierarchical structure in place, and replacing it with a directly democratic, horizontally organized system. Obviously Economics would be somewhere in the Socialist spectrum.

I'm killjoy27, Real name is Dakota, allmost 20 years old and have been on SFT since Nov. 2010. I am from Volkhov, Russia, but live near New York City. I am quite outspoken Politically, with an Anarchist / Libertarian Socialist position

I really don't play minecraft much anymore, and instead focus on Arma and RTS games

I am quite socially anxious, but for some reason I speak to crowds better than individuals (Guess I lower the importance of each person to another face in the crowd?)

I really don't have any questions for the guy above me.

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Sorry for the noob questions, but are these maps on the standalone DayZ or the ArmaIII mod DayZ?

Neither... the arma 3 version is just kinda bad... and DayZ standalone's just worse... it's the arma 2 mod cause it's still the best one.

I haven't played DayZ, so I also have a noob question . If you are talking about the arma 2 mod does that mean I need to buy Arma 2 to play it, or can I play it if I just buy DayZ off steam?

You need to purchase Arma 2: Combined Operations (25 USD) to be able to join the SFT server, when we get one

Its not even 25 dollars anymore its much less last time I checked.

I checked earlier today and it was 24.99 for combined ops

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Sorry for the noob questions, but are these maps on the standalone DayZ or the ArmaIII mod DayZ?

Neither... the arma 3 version is just kinda bad... and DayZ standalone's just worse... it's the arma 2 mod cause it's still the best one.

I haven't played DayZ, so I also have a noob question . If you are talking about the arma 2 mod does that mean I need to buy Arma 2 to play it, or can I play it if I just buy DayZ off steam?

You need to purchase Arma 2: Combined Operations (25 USD) to be able to join the SFT server, when we get one

A desktop PC to fight Seal Team 6? I guess I'm Screwed

stewardesses


try:  Intelligence

About bloody time

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The person below will have the number 9 in their name

This is literally the only thing that he did, that I even slightly agree with. But I honestly believe he's just doing it for show.

There are plenty of scientists saying that it is contagious even when you arent showing symptoms. I chose to belive them. There is so reason it couldnt be. People are also packed in the US. Have you never been in a subway? Yes first world countries have sewage systems and fresh water but that wont be the deciding factor in it spreading. No Ebola isnt the most infectious thing out there but you treat it like theres nothing to worry about


Yes, that IS a deciding factor. When you are squalering in the shit of some guy who just puked blood everywhere, you're going to have a problem. When you live in a home with 10 people and great uncle mahakalaka just started bleeding from his eyes in a pool on the ground, you're going to want to be far from it.

No, we should not completely ignore the problem, but we don't need to act like it's the goddamned bubonic plague.

@killjoy, no the nurses did not follow CDC guidelines. The projections could be accurate or could be completely off. there is no way to tell due to the thousands of factors involved.

The projections were posted 2-3 months ago, and at the current rate they seem to be decently accurate.


'And at a time when the recommendations from the CDC (Centers of Disease Control and Prevention) that we were following did not include the full respiratory mask.'

So, when she contracted it she was following Guidelines, but they were not adequate by any means.

Mar, 2014 - Infected: 130 Dead: 82 ROI: 1.792
Apr, 2014 - Infected: 233 Dead: 155 ROI: 1.792
May, 2014 - Infected: 354 Dead: 211 ROI: 1.51
Jun, 2014 - Infected: 759 Dead: 467 ROI: 2.144
Jul, 2014 - Infected: 1,440 Dead: 826 ROI: 1.897
Aug, 2014 - Infected: 3,707 Dead: 1,808 ROI: 2.574
Sep, 2014 - Infected: 7,492 Dead: 3,439 ROI: 2.02
Oct, 2014 - Infected: 15,134 Dead: 10,594 ROI: 2.02
Nov, 2014 - Infected: 30,570 Dead: 21,399 ROI: 2.02
Dec, 2014 - Infected: 61,752 Dead: 43,226 ROI: 2.02
Jan, 2015 - Infected: 124,739 Dead: 87,317 ROI: 2.02
Feb, 2015 - Infected: 251,973 Dead: 176,381 ROI: 2.02
Mar, 2015 - Infected: 508,986 Dead: 356,290 ROI: 2.02
Apr, 2015 - Infected: 1,028,152 Dead: 719,706 ROI: 2.02
May, 2015 - Infected: 2,076,867 Dead: 1,453,807 ROI: 2.02
Jun, 2015 - Infected: 4,195,272 Dead: 2,936,690 ROI: 2.02
Jul, 2015 - Infected: 8,474,449 Dead: 5,932,114 ROI: 2.02
Aug, 2015 - Infected: 17,118,387 Dead: 11,982,871 ROI: 2.02
Sep, 2015 - Infected: 34,579,141 Dead: 24,205,399 ROI: 2.02
Oct, 2015 - Infected: 69,849,865 Dead: 48,894,906 ROI: 2.02
Nov, 2015 - Infected: 141,096,727 Dead: 98,767,709 ROI: 2.02
Dec, 2015 - Infected: 285,015,389 Dead: 199,510,773 ROI: 2.02
Jan, 2016 - Infected: 575,731,087 Dead: 403,011,761 ROI: 2.02
Feb, 2016 - Infected: 1,162,976,795 Dead: 814,083,757 ROI: 2.02
Mar, 2016 - Infected: 2,349,213,126 Dead: 1,644,449,188 ROI: 2.02
Apr, 2016 - Infected: 4,745,410,514 Dead: 3,321,787,360 ROI: 2.02

So, what you are saying is that if we do not kill this shit in 2 years we are all going to die?

No, Just saying that at the current rate, it will be quite bad by years end.

It will probably burn itself out long before it reaches that point.

I honestly thing that there will be several million dead, maybe 2-3? But nowhere near an Extinction Level event as this shows

[Ebola Transmission]

Glad to see the UN getting in on the scare mongering as well, was getting bored of hearing indavidual governments do it.

It's not scare mongering at all it's a very real situation and sadly due to the incompetence of the CDC it's starting to spread in the US too.

Did you know a nurse travelled on an airline with hundreds of other passengers after calling the CDC and saying she thinks she has ebola because she had a high fever but the CDC said nah, it's fine you don't meet the criterias for Ebola and when she got in the country she was diagnosed with ebola?

She reported having a temperature of 99.6 degrees F (normal being around 99) before heading on the flight, still under the requirements to be considered a high fever and could be induced by physical activity, stress, or a multitude of other small ailments. She was one of many nurses on watch for contracting Ebola.

Let's look at the facts-

Ebola Transmission
If we are accepting what governmental leaders around the world are telling us, Ebola is contracted by being in contact with the carrier of the disease. Ebola is considered the "caretakers disease" and for good reason. Ebola is only transmittable when the patient begins showing noticeable symptoms I.E flue like symptoms, internal and external hemorrhaging, vomiting, etc. The reason it is so rampant in three of the many African countries is because the living standards and medical procedures there are much worse than around the world. Many still believe Ebola to be a superstitious disease and do not head the warnings of doctors there. Sick patients are living in a small home with 10 other people while vomiting and bleeding everywhere while mother and father take care of them, in turn getting the disease.

Ebola in the U.S.
The man who contracting Ebola and flew to the U.S. had lied about being around anyone who had Ebola and flew the airlines without symptoms. The 2 U.S. nurses had contracted the disease because they did not have the proper equipment in the Dallas lab to be 100% safe from infection. Both nurses are doing well since the sickness was caught early. Quarantines in large hospitals and proper equipment have been sent to ensure that it doesn't transmit further.

Infectiousness of Ebola
Don't be around someone who is vomiting, coughing up blood, shitting themselves, or bleeding out of their skin and eyes. Many other diseases and sicknesses are MUCh more contagious than Ebola, with a higher death rate. Over 40,000 people die every year from the flue in the United States alone. Go get a flu shot and stop having a meltdown over Ebola (not directed at anyone, just the media and mass coverage in general)


This is, indeed, fear mongering.

There is plenty of reasons to believe that Ebola can spread with out any symptoms. Nurses across the US believe themselves that they are not ready to deal with Ebola. Saying that the common flu is so much worse and you shouldnt have to wrry if fucked. the death rate of the flu is less than 1% than over 60% with Ebola. If you dont think cities are already crawling with bacteria that can transmit diseases then your e screwed. First world countries are dirty in a different way. The 2 nurses contracted Ebola because THEY chose to not follow proper precautions. It was all their fault. Just because youre not around people that are sick/ showing symptoms doesnt mean you cant get it from being out in public. Why are you saying to worry more  about the flu then just go get a shot? Ebola doesnt have a confirmed cure. That combined with it clearly being able to spread and its mortality rate makes it much worse

My whole point in involving the flu as a factor in this was due to its easy transmittable and the death rate that follows. You act like Ebola is the most infectious thing on this planet when it really isn't. First world countries are a "different" dirty, but that is not what I'm talking about- that is something you would say in elementary school- I was getting at the close proximity of people in third world countries and the lack of a proper sewage system, water purification system, and proper hygiene. These are all provided in first world countries and cuts down on the risk for spreading the disease exponentially. Not to mention this diseases is like a fucking strobe light to spot, the symptoms are almost souley unique, and if you aren't showing the symptoms, you aren't contagious.

Now to mention the nurses, they did not follow protocol (which there really wasn't a stable protocol at the time) and were not given proper equipment.

Ok, first, there is every reason to believe that it spreads while asymptomatic. Sure, you may not be as contagious, but the virus is still in your system, and can be transmitted through the normal methods. Also, If 5 people who are showing Flu like symptoms, board the NYC Subway (Daily ridership of 5.5 MILLION) They can easily be in almost direct contact with hundred to thousands. They are also quite filthy, with rats running free, and there is speculation that they can carry it as well.

Also, the nurses were following the CDC regulations in place at the time, and still were infected. This shows that the Government knows squat.

WHO states that by the end of November, there will be  10k plus cases a week.

Calculations of Infectivity

Mar, 2014 - Infected: 130 Dead: 82 ROI: 1.792
Apr, 2014 - Infected: 233 Dead: 155 ROI: 1.792
May, 2014 - Infected: 354 Dead: 211 ROI: 1.51
Jun, 2014 - Infected: 759 Dead: 467 ROI: 2.144
Jul, 2014 - Infected: 1,440 Dead: 826 ROI: 1.897
Aug, 2014 - Infected: 3,707 Dead: 1,808 ROI: 2.574
Sep, 2014 - Infected: 7,492 Dead: 3,439 ROI: 2.02
Oct, 2014 - Infected: 15,134 Dead: 10,594 ROI: 2.02
Nov, 2014 - Infected: 30,570 Dead: 21,399 ROI: 2.02
Dec, 2014 - Infected: 61,752 Dead: 43,226 ROI: 2.02
Jan, 2015 - Infected: 124,739 Dead: 87,317 ROI: 2.02
Feb, 2015 - Infected: 251,973 Dead: 176,381 ROI: 2.02
Mar, 2015 - Infected: 508,986 Dead: 356,290 ROI: 2.02
Apr, 2015 - Infected: 1,028,152 Dead: 719,706 ROI: 2.02
May, 2015 - Infected: 2,076,867 Dead: 1,453,807 ROI: 2.02
Jun, 2015 - Infected: 4,195,272 Dead: 2,936,690 ROI: 2.02
Jul, 2015 - Infected: 8,474,449 Dead: 5,932,114 ROI: 2.02
Aug, 2015 - Infected: 17,118,387 Dead: 11,982,871 ROI: 2.02
Sep, 2015 - Infected: 34,579,141 Dead: 24,205,399 ROI: 2.02
Oct, 2015 - Infected: 69,849,865 Dead: 48,894,906 ROI: 2.02
Nov, 2015 - Infected: 141,096,727 Dead: 98,767,709 ROI: 2.02
Dec, 2015 - Infected: 285,015,389 Dead: 199,510,773 ROI: 2.02
Jan, 2016 - Infected: 575,731,087 Dead: 403,011,761 ROI: 2.02
Feb, 2016 - Infected: 1,162,976,795 Dead: 814,083,757 ROI: 2.02
Mar, 2016 - Infected: 2,349,213,126 Dead: 1,644,449,188 ROI: 2.02
Apr, 2016 - Infected: 4,745,410,514 Dead: 3,321,787,360 ROI: 2.02




We are currently at about 9.2k Cases 4.5k Dead


So at mid Oct. we are inline to have 80k by end of the year 40k Dead.

TheMop123

Mechanicals FTW

Lazy_0ne

I doubt they will take it back by force. There are 40,000 Russian soldiers waiting on the other side of the Eastern Ukraine border and if the government in Ukraine decides to take the occupied buildings by force Putin will use that as a good enough reason to come in to Eastern Ukraine. In my opinion, I think that they should position troops in spots to protect other buildings from occupation and just cut their losses with the other buildings that have already been taking over. They could also form a defensive perimeter around the occupied buildings and not allow anyone in. The militants will have to come out at some point.

It's not like Ukraine has some sort of terrible military. They have around 160,000 active military personal and have the 22nd best military in the world. Than again that's nothing compared to the 776,000 active military personal that the 2nd ranked best military (Behind the United States) Russia has. The point is Ukraine is fully capable of defending themselves against pro Russian armed protesters, but the real fear is that by dealing with them Russia will in turn retaliate and claim they are defending the innocent people of Ukraine that the big bad government is hurting.

Russia is bigger and better than US. US is just manipulating with people. They haven't even won a war yet.

Would you care to enlighten me on how Russia is "better" then the United States? With you saying that the United States haven't won a war yet you must not know U.S history. The United States has won wars, but unlike Russia we don't strive to grow the our country by taking over everything we can get out hands on (<---- That's what I think not a fact) Tell me how the Russia is better then the U.S.A in non conventional warfare (No nukes) because including the nuclear option would be fruitless because no one would win.

*Note* I'm not provoking a flame war or anything like that, I simply want to know what your saying and why you are saying it

Wars the U.S. has won:

Our Civil War
WW1
WW2
Vietnam War (If you count containing communism a win)

Russia NEEDED U.S. help in WW2 otherwise Germany would've taken them over. And then Soviet Union (at the time) took to communism, such a better country. Most of Russia is wasted space anyway since no one wants to live in those places.

Our aid to Uncle Joe was quite minimal, besides most nations that invaded Russia did not succeed

I think you are referring to "Uncle Sam" and Russia has and has not been invaded. The land that is now Russia was invaded and taken over by the Mongols. You are mostly correct through.

To all thoughs saying that the US isn't so great, or Russia is better please back it up with facts.

No, I mean Unclo Joe, as in Stalin, and Russia has been invaded, the French under Napoleon, and Germany under Hitler, among others. France, and Germany, both were defeated, partially due to the actual Russian armed forces. but also due to the Russian Winter.

I doubt they will take it back by force. There are 40,000 Russian soldiers waiting on the other side of the Eastern Ukraine border and if the government in Ukraine decides to take the occupied buildings by force Putin will use that as a good enough reason to come in to Eastern Ukraine. In my opinion, I think that they should position troops in spots to protect other buildings from occupation and just cut their losses with the other buildings that have already been taking over. They could also form a defensive perimeter around the occupied buildings and not allow anyone in. The militants will have to come out at some point.

It's not like Ukraine has some sort of terrible military. They have around 160,000 active military personal and have the 22nd best military in the world. Than again that's nothing compared to the 776,000 active military personal that the 2nd ranked best military (Behind the United States) Russia has. The point is Ukraine is fully capable of defending themselves against pro Russian armed protesters, but the real fear is that by dealing with them Russia will in turn retaliate and claim they are defending the innocent people of Ukraine that the big bad government is hurting.

Russia is bigger and better than US. US is just manipulating with people. They haven't even won a war yet.

Would you care to enlighten me on how Russia is "better" then the United States? With you saying that the United States haven't won a war yet you must not know U.S history. The United States has won wars, but unlike Russia we don't strive to grow the our country by taking over everything we can get out hands on (<---- That's what I think not a fact) Tell me how the Russia is better then the U.S.A in non conventional warfare (No nukes) because including the nuclear option would be fruitless because no one would win.

*Note* I'm not provoking a flame war or anything like that, I simply want to know what your saying and why you are saying it

Wars the U.S. has won:

Our Civil War
WW1
WW2
Vietnam War (If you count containing communism a win)

Russia NEEDED U.S. help in WW2 otherwise Germany would've taken them over. And then Soviet Union (at the time) took to communism, such a better country. Most of Russia is wasted space anyway since no one wants to live in those places.

Our aid to Uncle Joe was quite minimal, besides most nations that invaded Russia did not succeed