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Started by Towelie, Jul 20, 2015, 02:54 PM

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iLaxrv10

I don't usually respond in things like this but things are changing and always will be changing. There is a saying in our world that says, "change is good" or "change is for the better". Towelie, Dpa, Fear and everyone are doing so many things to amp up, if you will, our server. Some people not only in this general topic but all over the world don't like change and there is nothing to be done about it. Sure, you can bring up the past but it won't bring the past back. SFT is on the move for bigger and better things. Slime fun, autoshops, and so many more plugins are used to make the server more enjoyable. Ive been with SFT since December of 2012 and Ive loved it ever since. Sure, I took a break like most people but now I'm back and I remember the old SFT, sure it was great but look how far we have come! SFT is on its way to some really great things in my eyes and everyone just needs to enjoy it along the way! I know some people disagree greatly with me and its apart of human nature. Some people like things and some don't, its just your view. There is no reason to hate on SFT, the owners are only trying to make it better and to me, they are. Again, bringing up the past won't do much, only some great memories that will last a long time ;)
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shadowaurax

I dunno, seems to me most of the problems people say they leave for are staff and community, at least for the longer time players, then their friends follow in suite, probably because they are lonely and unwilling to make new friends again.

For my end, community will change, that's whatever, but rules enforcing the direction of the community change are making it sour to me.
In implementing all these 'be nice and shiny because how would you feel if people are mean to you' policies, it feels like we're getting more stupid friggin questions and saying something like, "If you'd take the time to stfu and google it for 2 seconds, you'd already have your answer". Makes everyone like OMG DON'T BE SO MEAN!(no caps obviously because that's a rule too >.>). Nobody wants to answer the stupid questions either, but everyone will show that they have the stick of righteousness up their arse to tell you you're in the wrong.

I'm not saying I don't ask stupid questions and haven't in the past. I do, and I'm usually aware within a few minutes how stupid they were. You take the criticism and move on, and try not be be a jackass again, but we're basically banning criticism of stupidity as we're moving forward. Don't be like American schools under the No Child Left Behind Act, leave anyone being stupid feeling stupid until they're ready to move on. We don't need to lower the standard to make them feel better -.-,



Also, I would guess that map nukes other resets take their toll on both Pixel and Survival. Is it necessary for a server to remain playable(without being a major company)? Absolutely.
I haven't been around long enough to know the regular frequency, but I imagine you can only pour yourself into so many builds and have them disappear before you don't want to do it anymore.

Towelie

We're currently doing our best to get to the bottom of the staff problems and solving them.
As for the community problem, please develop.


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Brightpkz

Jul 22, 2015, 04:12 AM #28 Last Edit: Jul 22, 2015, 04:18 AM by Brightpkz
Quote from: shadowaurax on Jul 22, 2015, 02:48 AMAlso, I would guess that map nukes other resets take their toll on both Pixel and Survival. Is it necessary for a server to remain playable(without being a major company)? Absolutely.
I haven't been around long enough to know the regular frequency, but I imagine you can only pour yourself into so many builds and have them disappear before you don't want to do it anymore.

I don't wanna seem like a massive douchebag who just cuts your whole post into this tiny bit here, but.

Throughout the week, there's been MULTIPLE, frontpaged posts regarding the reset topic. I don't think it's necessary to stir up this topic once AGAIN in a topic to convince others to not leave, as the topic of reset has caused the people to leave 2 weeks ago. <- Which means, you bringing this up, doesn't really help the cause of this post.

Now, back to this topic...

The talks on the procedures of reset are STILL on the go, which means, discussions are still going on, and even Towelie himself has not derived a conclusion, so, why should we as a community jump to one beforehand?

Resets have happened before, and looking back at former pattern, they always let you move 2 builds to another world that's staying. Just calm down...

The current resets we take action on basically all of our servers are inevitable. Not because we hate your builds, but because:
1. The world is OVER-CROWDING and guests have no places to build in/ do /random to. (This is a major issue because guests act as our future of SFT.)
2. People do need a fresh start when they have everything established, it gets boring.
3. The current survival /w2 has around what? 20-30% of usable space remaining, even if we do not consider possible BCV rules being involved when you build there... So how is it not necessary to reset it.



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Towelie

What bright said.
And if you need to see that what we said is true, go look at the dynmap
http://mc.superfuntime.org:8123/
Then enable the WorldGuard overlay, and then check how overcrowded World2 is. (world1 is too but we recently expanded it a bit.


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Towelie

Quote from: shadowaurax on Jul 22, 2015, 02:48 AMbut rules enforcing the direction of the community change are making it sour to me.

Please explain


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shadowaurax

Jul 22, 2015, 04:52 AM #31 Last Edit: Jul 22, 2015, 05:57 AM by shadowaurax
Quote from: Brightpkz on Jul 22, 2015, 04:12 AM
Quote from: shadowaurax on Jul 22, 2015, 02:48 AMAlso, I would guess that map nukes other resets take their toll on both Pixel and Survival. Is it necessary for a server to remain playable(without being a major company)? Absolutely.
I haven't been around long enough to know the regular frequency, but I imagine you can only pour yourself into so many builds and have them disappear before you don't want to do it anymore.

I don't wanna seem like a massive douchebag who just cuts your whole post into this tiny bit here, but.

Throughout the week, there's been MULTIPLE, frontpaged posts regarding the reset topic. I don't think it's necessary to stir up this topic once AGAIN in a topic to convince others to not leave, as the topic of reset has caused the people to leave 2 weeks ago. <- Which means, you bringing this up, doesn't really help the cause of this post.

Now, back to this topic...

The talks on the procedures of reset are STILL on the go, which means, discussions are still going on, and even Towelie himself has not derived a conclusion, so, why should we as a community jump to one beforehand?

Resets have happened before, and looking back at former pattern, they always let you move 2 builds to another world that's staying. Just calm down...

The current resets we take action on basically all of our servers are inevitable. Not because we hate your builds, but because:
1. The world is OVER-CROWDING and guests have no places to build in/ do /random to.
2. People do need a fresh start when they have everything established, it gets boring.
3. The current survival /w2 has around what? 20-30% of usable space remaining, even if we do not consider possible BCV rules being involved when you build there... So how is it not necessary to reset it.




I was just noting it as a reason, not to stir anything up. I can only go off what I see and that has largely been on Pixel, Survival I just pop into every now and again. I actually intended the post more to the point of server-wide forced babysitting in chat being something to be less instead of more enforced.

Anywho, since you brought it up...
I wasn't aware of being able to move builds in survival; Two moved should be enough for anyone. That said, pixel hasn't had that leniency through either of the wipes I've seen, and even autoshops weren't spared this time around unless something changed that I wasn't aware of.

Pixel used to peak pretty regular at 70+ people over weekends, it lagged so bad that I couldn't do anything on my crappy comp, but that was fine, server was healthy, people seemed happy. Only thing I've really seen change on Pixel end is wipes and policy changes to how we can chat an interact. But even wipes hardly dropped the weekend peaks. Now the air of fun is by and large sucked out of chat, unless there's an event going on or a few people are being silly enough to make people disregard skirting the line with chat spam to shout ridiculous things in global, and I don't think I've seen activity peak past 60 people and only for short times when it happens(average I've seen is around 51-55).
As before, I haven't been around for THAT long to make a full evaluation, maybe summer weekends just doesn't peak as high as school year weekends?

If this was a topic only meant toward survival, sorry...I would assume it should be moved/marked as such.

Brightpkz

I don't think you really "read" this post. This post specified its target in its first sentence. "Lately, I've seen a few players that leave SFT..."

Also, the general announcement board is suitable for posts for any server/any audience, while relevant and needed. It's posted here because it needs to be seen by everyone, the post is important and shouldn't be ignored, hence why it's here. The post is answering a recent heated topic of discussion, so why shouldn't it be here. It's not been marked "[Survival]" because it applies to all servers.

Then, I would like to talk about your argument on Pixelmon's recent activity.

Firstly, I don't think you should merely take your scope on Pixelmon. The activity drop has also been observed in our other servers, if you look at their data too.

Secondly, You gotta look at the other perspectives, i.e. vacations, holidays, visiting families, etc.

Thirdly, The chat policies. Yes, you may argue that the new policies "suck up" the fun, which could be true. But what about the necessity of it... Minecraft was intended to be a game that even kids could play, due to its difficulty. Not saying that adults can't play, but it's been made clear that they were pitching this game as a children-friendly one to the world. As a server of Minecraft, I believe we should perpetuate that, though it may be undesirable. You may argue, that the server has a larger player base of teens and young adults, which may also be true. But if you look, around 3 weeks ago, there was a huge post on the chat made about the PE server... Although, you could say that PE isn't Pixelmon, but it's clear that there's a large proportion of players here that don't enjoy uncontrolled chats, hence the necessity of these policies.

Moving builds:

That rule has been there for the past resets as well.

Pixelmon's reset rules:
Perhaps it wasn't as lenient, but then again, they haven't reseted for a LONG time, a fresh start was clearly needed...

I said you were stirring things up because you were bringing up a topic addressed >5 times by Towelie himself on FRONTPAGED posts. And you brought this up on a post that's aimed at protecting the server's interests and stopping players from leaving... It's been clear that resets have been a matter of controversy... So not here please xd

Look, I'm not saying you're wrong or slamming your views, but if it's a matter of controversy, maybe talk about it in private with Towelie or ANYONE who could solve it for you... Because that could probably help you more than posting in the public would.




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Towelie

Quote from: shadowaurax on Jul 22, 2015, 04:52 AMI wasn't aware of being able to move builds in survival; Two moved should be enough for anyone. That said, pixel hasn't had that leniency through either of the wipes I've seen, and even autoshops weren't spared this time around unless something changed that I wasn't aware of.
Pixelmon doesn't have the human power that Survival has.
AKA we have more staff.


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Towelie

Quote from: shadowaurax on Jul 22, 2015, 04:52 AMNow the air of fun is by and large sucked out of chat, unless there's an event going on or a few people are being silly enough to make people disregard skirting the line with chat spam to shout ridiculous things in global
If you have any suggestions on how we may fix/improve that, please let me know.
Things should be a bit better once UnitedWeDance assumes the HoS position as she is trained on Survival and familiar with our slightly more rigurous ways.


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tobminer

Quote from: donnydoom604 on Jul 21, 2015, 05:13 PM
Quote from: tobminer on Jul 21, 2015, 05:11 PMBright, a lot of auto owners that day tried to..
Like usual, Towelie did NOT listen.

Therefore it's almost pointless to say/post a suggestion.
I thought you left?
Funny.


I left the server, I am still somewhat active on the forums.

Also, your message there is DEFINITELY going to get me back on the server.

Towelie, Donnydoom has had a warning before already, and he continues this crap. Extremely rude, and people like donny is the main reason I left.

Perhaps a demotion?

Idk, your choice, but it seems to me that Donny needs to take a break from the staff team.

saywhat2365

First off he makes a good point, you come on the topic acting like you've been gone for months making a big deal out of stuff that most people would brush off.

Second of all, I don't think you are in any position to be demanding people to be demoted for making a simple comment on a forum topic nor do I think you have done anything here except attempt to draw attention to yourself for problems that you brought on yourself.

I'm not really sure what you're trying to accomplish here.

tobminer

Sorry about that Saywhat, forgot if you are leaving there is a rule in place about needing to leave the forums aswell.

Terribly sorry for posting my opinion and trying to feel like I still fit into the community still.

Sorry

Deleted superfuntime from bookmarks.

Over and out.

~Tobminer

VirginianAE

I just went back and read this entire thread because it looked like it would be worth a few chuckles and the login servers are down.  This thread didn't disappoint.  A few reflections:

Towelie, staff, and whoever else has contributed.... keep doin' yalls thing.  Maybe the trend is just sunsetting and maybe we're just a lull.  Either way, you guys keep giving us a great place to play.

Old/new players with frustrations: it's a free server (unless you donate) and they are trying to make hundreds of (mostly adolescent) users happy at the same time. A little patience and tolerance is probably a virtue.

tobminer... I "get it", but you aren't looking well from the perspective of a third-party observer when I go back and read the thread. Cut bait, man.

Ditto to Towelie's initial post: this is a great server, decent community, and provides a lot of different ways to play the game.  It's worth sticking around.